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Rate your best and worst re-castings!

It annoys me in the sense that IRL it was done purely as a way to make him look more like Picard to the audience, as if people wouldn't believe he was a clone if he had a different hairstyle to Picard.

But as far as plausibility goes, I had a friend who had a full on bald patch at the age of 19, and shaved his head to hide it. IIRC Stewart went bald very early too, so it's not inconceivable.
Apparently John Logan's original idea was that Shinzon would have a full head of hair for most of the film, but as he deteriorated it gradually fell out, leaving him totally bald by the climax. Berman and/or Baird overruled this idea, though, and decided that Shinzon had to be bald throughout the movie.

Though for me, the problem wasn't so much the continuity issues as the fact that a shaved Tom Hardy looks uncannily like Dr. Evil...
 
I think one of the reasons they created Valeris was because Nick Meyer didn't like Curtis's performance either. Kim Cattrall played Valeris a lot more like Alley's Saavik, and I preferred her as well.

Partly this, I've heard -- Meyer had originally cast Alley in the role after Cattrall turned it down for TWOK. Meyer's preference would have been to bring Alley back, but she was too expensive by then based on her successful run as Rebecca Howe on "Cheers".

I've also heard that Cattrall specifically accepted the role as Valeris, on the condition that she *not* be just another recast of Saavik. She wanted to play a new role.
 
I would have preferred Saavik to be the traitor, but I can't really blame Cattrall for not wanting to be Saavik #3.

Sounds like there was more than reason for the decision, as is usually the case.
 
That used to be true, but it's not any longer. Jeffrey Wright played Leiter in both 2006's Casino Royale and 2008's Quantum of Solace. I hope they bring him back again for Daniel Craig's last Bond film.

I wonder if they'll kill Bond's girl for the occasion (remember that he left the service for her).
 
That used to be true, but it's not any longer. Jeffrey Wright played Leiter in both 2006's Casino Royale and 2008's Quantum of Solace. I hope they bring him back again for Daniel Craig's last Bond film.

Really? I'll have to rewatch those films. It has been, after all, a decade or more since I saw them last.
 
Best: Simon Pegg as Scotty
Honorable Mention: Penny Johnson Jerald as Dr. Crusher
Worst: Tracy Middendorf as Tora Ziyal
 
Don't have any best recasting, but I thought Chris Pine was the worst recasting of Captain Kirk. He's not Kirk, but more in line of a "Saved By the Bell" character pretending to be Kirk... in name only. Kirk is a smart guy but Pine does too many stupid things to even be considered the character.

As much as liked Star Trek I gave some of the silly things Kirk did a pass, but I don't buy that guy being promoted as Captain. I didn't buy him acting like some adolescent child in Into Darkness with Spock when he was excited about going to deep space missions.

There need to be some kind of maturity and a humble posture being a Captain of a ship, Pine's character lacks those traits. Beyond was the nail in the coffin for me when he seems to be naive enough to challenge a marauder of mini-ships. Ship strategy is a key element for being CO and this guy fails... every time.

Spock was so spot on stranding him on an ice planet full of monsters... to put that fool out of his misery.
 
I'm really surprised that nobody has agreed with me so far about Sarek on Discovery. That guy sucks!
 
Wouldn't it be fun if Discovery's writers open the brain cells and established the name Sarek was as common a name as Michael or John?
 
While the Abrams movie franchise has certainly seen a large number of Star Trek characters re-cast, it wasn't the first time a character was re-cast in Star Trek, and wasn't the last either. So I thought it would be fun to see who everyone thinks are the best and worst re-casting decisions throughout the history of the franchise.

Best: Karl Urban as Dr. McCoy in the Abrams Movies
I don't like any of the nuTrek recasts. The only one that even slightly works is the guy playing nuSulu.

The best Kirk recast, in my view, is Vic Mignogna on Star Trek Continues. Yes, his voice is different, but in all other respects, he's the most Kirk-like of the alternate Kirks, and has the speech, the mannerisms, and the attitude just right.

Not a re-casting but I'll mention it anyway:
David Tristan Birkin as 12 year old Captain Picard in TNG "Rascals". The kid absolutely nailed it and without such a strong performance I don't think the episode would have been as watchable as it is.
Agreed - that kid was terrific.

James Frain as Sarek
One of the worst, definitely. But if we're talking about nuTrek movies, I'd have to say that THE worst recast was Benedict Cumberbatch as Khan. If they absolutely had to have him in this movie, they should have left him as John Harrison, one of the many "supermen" of the Eugenics Wars. That would have worked, and given another perspective of that time that wasn't just Khan.

I have a hard time deciding whether my issues with Quinto are due to his performance or the dialogue written for him. But one thing I'm sure of is that he's missing that authorative baritone voice that Nimoy had. I had the same issue with Cho as Suki.
His voice, his body language, his facial structure (fuller face than Nimoy had), and his constantly constipated expression.

I think one of the reasons they created Valeris was because Nick Meyer didn't like Curtis's performance either. Kim Cattrall played Valeris a lot more like Alley's Saavik, and I preferred her as well.
Alley's Saavik had a personality that was interesting.

Cattrall's Valeris was just constantly smug, like the actress was projecting a "look at me, everybody, I'm in a Star Trek movie, and what do you think of the hairband I designed?" attitude (I thought the hairband looked stupid)

TUC was on TV last night, and I was reminded all over again at the robotic way she spoke (like the androids in "I, Mudd"), while simultaneously projecting a haughty smugness that just grated on my nerves every time she opened her mouth.

My understanding is Valeris was suppposed to be Saavik, but Roddenberry threw a fit so they made up a new character who was essentially the same person with a different name.
That's one fit I'm glad he pitched, if that's what happened. I would have hated to see Saavik be cast as a traitor and assassin.

Lenard was also memorable as General Urko in the PLANET OF THE APES tv series and as the main heavy, Aaron Stemple, in HERE COMES THE BRIDES.
He was also in an episode of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century.

I would have preferred Saavik to be the traitor, but I can't really blame Cattrall for not wanting to be Saavik #3.
I can't imagine Saavik having any reason to participate in this scheme, unless you're going by the extra material added to the Search For Spock novel in which Saavik and David were lovers, and she decided to help assassinate the Klingon Chancellor in revenge for David's death.

I'm glad Saavik wasn't in TUC.

John Belushi as Capt. Kirk on SNL.
If we're comparing parody recasts, I'd have to nominate "Star Schtick" on the Wayne & Shuster program (Canadian comedy show that sometimes did parodies of TV shows, movies, and Shakespeare plays). It's really dated now, with the references to 1970s Canadian politics (our current PM, Justin Trudeau, was referenced in this skit when he was a child), but I still enjoy Frank Shuster as "Captain Quirk" and Johnny Wayne as "Mr. Spoof".

Don't have any best recasting, but I thought Chris Pine was the worst recasting of Captain Kirk. He's not Kirk, but more in line of a "Saved By the Bell" character pretending to be Kirk... in name only. Kirk is a smart guy but Pine does too many stupid things to even be considered the character.
Captain Frat Boy.

As much as liked Star Trek I gave some of the silly things Kirk did a pass, but I don't buy that guy being promoted as Captain. I didn't buy him acting like some adolescent child in Into Darkness with Spock when he was excited about going to deep space missions.
It's not that captains aren't allowed to be excited and look forward to deep space missions. But he was skipping giddily around, acting like a high school kid rather than a mature, seasoned captain.

I'm really surprised that nobody has agreed with me so far about Sarek on Discovery. That guy sucks!
You have my agreement. He's awful, and is one of the reasons why you (general "you") will never convince me that DiscoTrek is a true prequel to TOS.
 
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From 'Almost Live' - Bill Nye as William Shatner as Captain Kirk in a one man show.
 
Best: Pine and Quinto as Kirk and Spock. I think they definitely brought some chemistry to the roles.
Absolutely agree, I would add in Karl Urban as McCoy.
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I enjoy J.J. Abrams Kirk, Spock and McCoy as much as Roddenberry's originals.
 
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