CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar

[Matthew Raymond]

Without sounding like I am knocking their time and effort, but continues , and all the other fan productions did not come close to looking any way as good as the short prelude to axanar show.

I think that depends on how you're measuring "good". STC isn't supposed to look realistic. It was conceived as a continuation of TOS, and as such tried to look as much like TOS as possible. I think, in that regard, they were extremely successful, and if that's what you were looking for, that I think STC is very good. By contrast, Prelude was conceived with modern visual effects and production standards in mind, so if you're not paying attention to how good a job STC does of copying the Original Series aesthetic, it can feel like Prelude has better production quality, even though they're both basically on par with each other. It's really kind of an apples to oranges comparison, when you think about it.

 

[gazomg]

I am not knocking fan producers efforts, their passion and love.I know plenty people love them.
I totally understand they do not have access to the budget and other things Axanar had, and they are always going to be up against it. I tried "continues " and it just was not for me, along with a load more other fan productions, its not like I just dismissed them all without giving them a shot, but I did not like them, and thats what has annoyed people because I have said this.

Could a full length Axanar been lesser quality that the prelude show, of course, or it could be equally as good, and sadly we will never know for so many reasons, which is another debate in itself.,

 

[fireproof78]

Let me settle this for you all.

You are all entitled to your opinions.

But unless they agree with mine, they are categorically wrong.

Carry on.

/thread

 

[Tom]

If not for Tobias Rictor, Prelude would be pretty bad. I give props to Tobias for his outstanding CGI work.

 

[Steven P Bastien]

Just my opinion, but for me, the quality (the production, the scripts, and particularly the music/sound-effects) of STC makes it more than just a fan production. For me it stands along side TOS, TAS, TNG etc. as an integral part of the Star Trek saga.

Axanar had the potential to do the same, but because of what played out, it can not become that now. We'll see what eventually comes out, but the length limit, even when combined with Prelude, will restrain it to be just a fan production, and (sadly) it will always have the stigma of being the "fan production" that "screwed the pooch". No amount of spin will ever change that.

 

[dmac]

Prelude was awesome for a $500 fan film...... oh wait...!!!

 

[Woulfe]

1678
1701
not long now ;-)

 

[Woulfe]

I find it crazy how long & large this thing has become, granted a lot of it is that LFIM just can't stay quiet for very long can he ?

Any estimate when his 15 mins of fame is used up ? ;-)

 

[jespah]

Once we hit 1701 pages, I'd say.

 

[Jedman67]

Axanar had the potential to do the same, but because of what played out, it can not become that now. We'll see what eventually comes out, but the length limit, even when combined with Prelude, will restrain it to be just a fan production, and (sadly) it will always have the stigma of being the "fan production" that "screwed the pooch". No amount of spin will ever change that.

Axanar could have been that good if Peters hadn't butted in. From what I understand, his role in making Prelude was basically organizing the fundraising; Christian Gosset's team did all the hard work. Once they split, any chance of the full Axanar being made died.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Ever since the Mall-Con debacle, Alec Peters and Co. have been remarkably quiet. I wonder if they have given up or have just decided to go under the radar for a while?

 

[fireproof78]

Ever since the Mall-Con debacle, Alec Peters and Co. have been remarkably quiet. I wonder if they have given up or have just decided to go under the radar for a while?

Probably working under the radar.

 

[Jedi_Master]

Probably working under the radar.

That's my guest. Alec burns through cash too quickly and has a "studio" full of molding patches. He will need to surface again soon.

 

[Tom]

Axanar is a tragedy to be sure. A full Axanar movie had such amazing potential after Prelude was released. Greed and mismanagement brought the whole project down. From my vantage point I knew many in the crew (mostly from Prelude) and was even recommending people to Alec, just sad to me how it all went down.

 

[Matthew Raymond]

Prelude was awesome for a $500 fan film...... oh wait...!!!

Was there a particular fan film made from scratch for $500?

 

[Maurice]

Axanar is a tragedy to be sure. A full Axanar movie had such amazing potential after Prelude was released. Greed and mismanagement brought the whole project down. From my vantage point I knew many in the crew (mostly from Prelude) and was even recommending people to Alec, just sad to me how it all went down.

The trouble was the script for the feature was rotten to the core, on the level of those $1.98 budget fanfilms some are decrying. They could've poured dumptrucks of money into it but it was never going to be good with that "writing".

 

[MikeH92467]

The trouble was the script for the feature was rotten to the core, on the level of those $1.98 budget fanfilms some are decrying. They could've poured dumptrucks of money into it but it was never going to be good with that "writing".

The fact is that with today's technology, just about anyone who is willing to take their time and learn how to use the incredibly (relatively speaking) cheap equipment can make remarkably good looking and good sounding stuff. The problem still comes down to script. Tom Baker's "Genesis of the Daleks" story line, kept me absolutely enthralled (and at times creeped out) because the story was so incredibly good. The fact that the sets were barely more than cheesy, even for the time didn't matter. My point is that everything else can be learned well enough, but finding someone who can write even a passable script is a lot more difficult. The Tressaurian Intersection isn't good because of the sets and the acting was uneven, but damn that story was good.

 

[fireproof78]

Axanar is a tragedy to be sure. A full Axanar movie had such amazing potential after Prelude was released. Greed and mismanagement brought the whole project down. From my vantage point I knew many in the crew (mostly from Prelude) and was even recommending people to Alec, just sad to me how it all went down.

There's been a series of videos on YouTube around collapsed Internet projects and celebrities. I really want one regarding Axanar.

 

[mirrormatt86]

I've been covering this since 2016 - when Alec joined me on the show ... I wish I was a stronger interviewer back then.

In fact, April 26 marks two years to the day that I began.


BTW, there is a volunteer clean up day happening at the end of the month.

 

[Tom]

The trouble was the script for the feature was rotten to the core, on the level of those $1.98 budget fanfilms some are decrying. They could've poured dumptrucks of money into it but it was never going to be good with that "writing".

True, I never actually read the script, but just going by what others said about it. Thing is, Axanar did have potential, and maybe the script could have changed before the shoot. The project had an inexperienced head producer and things went to shit. Alec should have bit his own ego, and had an experienced producer run the whole project.