Continues was at the same quality and actually delivered, unlike Axanar. They just didn't create their own coffee, among other things.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Continues was at the same quality and actually delivered, unlike Axanar. They just didn't create their own coffee, among other things.
Don't go down the Rabbit Hole.... just a friendly suggestion. Arguing with some people is like painting a porcupine's spikes. It can be done, but when you are finished you ask yourself: why did I bother?
You know, it's one of these days... Sometimes the urge resurfaces...
But there was never any competition involved. Just the love for Star Trek. That's what fan films stand for.
EDIT: Regarding STC, of course. But you already knew that.
Anything that takes mindshare away from the official Trek properties could be construed as competition. It's not just a factor of acting dickish and saying your stuff is the "one true Trek".
It's a weird story insofar as most of the poking of the lion that Axanar did was aimed at JJ Abrams handling of Trek and he and Justin Lin were the ones who hastily rushed in to his defense, only to back off again and let the case resolve on its own.
I just think it would be wrong to say that Axanar was the only high-profile (pro-grade) fan-film property. It was one of several and was just the straw that broke the camel's back.
Happy to hear I'm not the only one.You know, it's one of these days... Sometimes the urge resurfaces...
Most prolific fan studios are too busy competing with their own last best production to worry about that professional hobbyist. When it comes to CBS, I'll put my $250 bucks up against their $2 million product project.... Oh yeah, lets see how close I'll get....Never know they could all fall over laughing.....lol
Why do you keep confusing ambiguous accusations and insults with an actual argument?
Sounds like you're just trying to dismiss an argument without giving your own counterargument to me. If a non-profit fan film has a reasonable chance of reducing CBS's profit margins for the Star Trek franchise, how is it that STC does not reduce those profit margins, it being one of the most expensive, highest quality fan film series ever made? You basically have to invent a bigger non-profit fan film so that STC isn't the competition you're talking about. That, to use your own words, is an "assumption to create an argument".
I'm not sure how fan films take mind share away, though. If people are watching a fan film based on TNG or TOS, I would think that fan films would actually be keeping people interested in those properties (especially if most fan films are actually derivative and you need to have fundamental knowledge of the source material they're based on to enjoy them). If you're arguing that those same fan films distract from current efforts like Discovery, then you're really arguing indirectly that previous Trek series are Discovery's biggest competition (which is entirely possible, in my opinion).
Sometimes an entertainment news show will mistakenly use a clip from a fan film for a clip from TOS. InnerSpace did this recently.
I'm not actually certain how damaging this specifically is to CBS. Certainly many viewers would have no idea that the clip isn't authentic; it wouldn't be legitimizing the fan film but rather would instead just be reminding them of the original. The people making the show were certainly fooled. I'd say that it's a very tiny group of people who could tell that it wasn't from the original but who would think that whatever it was from was somehow authentic.
For me, it merely reflected badly on the credibility of the program airing it for being careless with how they acquired their clip.
I'm not actually certain how damaging this specifically is to CBS. Certainly many viewers would have no idea that the clip isn't authentic; it wouldn't be legitimizing the fan film but rather would instead just be reminding them of the original. The people making the show were certainly fooled. I'd say that it's a very tiny group of people who could tell that it wasn't from the original but who would think that whatever it was from was somehow authentic.
For me, it merely reflected badly on the credibility of the program airing it for being careless with how they acquired their clip.
I know that's right.You know, it's one of these days... Sometimes the urge resurfaces...
Nope. Not at all. 
I just finally pulled the plug one particular poster who's case of keyboard diarrhea was getting on my nerves and threatening to effect me. Going over the familiar ground with various people is one thing. Going over the same ground and the same arguments with the same person just got too damn old.
I don't know him/her, what projects they've worked on. if any so I don't have any bearing on where they're coming from and just do a mental auto-skip.
I was trying to that when I sprained my middle finger spinning the scroll wheel to get past the massive posts. I figure I'll read it between the lines if I miss something important.
Don't do that You won't be able to "wave" at other drivers.
In regards to that certain broken record....
To the topic at hand, I'd present LFIM's most recent tweet.....
https://twitter.com/Axanarfilm/status/977533588668370944
More concerning is the same old drivel coming out about how CBS had to crush Axanar because of Discovery being set in the same time period, and how Axanar is "real Trek" and "Discovery isn't Trek as we know it."In regards to that certain broken record....
To the topic at hand, I'd present LFIM's most recent tweet.....
https://twitter.com/Axanarfilm/status/977533588668370944
News flash: Neither was TNG or TWOK. Neither is Axanar.
Without sounding like I am knocking their time and effort, but continues , and all the other fan productions did not come close to looking any way as good as the short prelude to axanar show.
All the others have that feel of tacky in some part, which is understandable when compared to the big budget of CBS.
Axanar is the only fan production I have ever seen that I did not feel compelled to turn off after 30 seconds or even less..or struggled to keep on watching to try give them a chance.
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