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Who here also thinks that doing it like it all began is still the way to go like Enterprise tried to do? Except with a different premise for leaving the galaxy this time than a simple rescue mission.
 
I think the only thing played out in Star Trek is the concept/premise. Nobody has ever explained how it all started. Damn the Klingons or the Klingots.
 
First contact was a TNG story, not a reimagining, which I believe is what Trek needs again I'm afraid until it gets it right. Then things can precede from there properly. Plus FC was a time travel story and they don't count cause the events in time could be constantly changing as far as we know.
 
First contact was a TNG story, not a reimagining, which I believe is what Trek needs again I'm afraid until it gets it right.
So you want a reimagining that goes back to the very origins of how everything started, presumably in the late 21st century when the first warp missions are taking place? Why even make it Star Trek? Such a concept will have little to do with Star Trek mythos that it might as well be an original idea, if for no other reason to allow the writers more freedom to do its own thing.
 
First contact was a TNG story, not a reimagining, which I believe is what Trek needs again I'm afraid until it gets it right. Then things can precede from there properly. Plus FC was a time travel story and they don't count cause the events in time could be constantly changing as far as we know.
First Contact was absolutely a reimagining of the character of Zefram Cochrane. From http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Zefram_Cochrane:

"We decided to take a lot of liberty with the Original Series character, and we created a new character," declared co-writer Brannon Braga, "because the character we meet in this film is very different [....] We kind of ignored, to some degree, the Cochrane from the original series."​

So.... you're wrong about FC not being a reimagining.

As for FC not counting, well... also wrong. It's worth pointing out that no story of any kind in ST is immune from the effects of time travel, so demanding that any such story exist is, shall we say, barking up the wrong tree.

Plus, most fans don't rank FC among their least favorite of the films. It's generally regarded as the best of the TNG films and among the best overall, so... you're really the lonely voice here about declaring that FC needs supplanting.
 
The events in First Contact only happened in First Contact so how can they be a reimagining? The story only happened in First Contact. Even Brannon Braga and Ron Moore said a reimagining was the was to go with Star Trek before JJ's verse. I don't think frankly that it has ever been done.
 
More freedom than the universe?
Trek has a whole mythos around it that most series and incarnations stick to (even if the execution in some may be a little lacklustre). If you want to go back and reinvent it all then drop any and all connections to Trek and make it something original, so that the creators have far more freedom to do what they want, that way they can then move forward with a new show that will grow in a whole new way rather than go back and screw over everything that's come already.
 
But it is rather limiting. Let's say this is a show set in the 2080s or 90s aboard the Ring-ship Enterprise as it travels between Earth, Alpha Centauri and I don't know Vega colony or whatever. There's presumably no real contact with aliens aside from Vulcans and if this is indeed in continuity with Star Trek Prime Canon, there's not a lot that can go on. The next step is to maybe make it a separate continuity, but consider, it's already completely different from other Treks, if you're going to make it a separate continuity you might as well go one step further and make it an original storyline not related to Trek mythos. Then you're free to take this storyline in which every direction you want to take it without having to make it line up with Star Trek Canon, or Gene's Vision or all that associated baggage that comes with the franchise.
 
You can keep Gene's vision which is what makes it Star Trek, but get rid of everything else.
Gene even said that in the future he hopes people will say, 'Oh, that Gene Roddenberry - He was never this good.'
 
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Just try writing something better than what he wrote or as good. You're barking up the wrong tree.
 
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