50th Anniversary Rewatch Thread

[Tallguy]

Yes, at the time of this ep, WWII was more recent for everyone than, say, Iraq's invasion of Kuwait is for us now.

That'll be enough out of you. And get off of my lawn!

Hmmm. I never thought about the replicator thing. If I wanted to go all Trekkie, maybe they didn't have FOOD replicators? (The show does go back and forth and round and round on that one.)

OTOH, the biggest evidence for replicators in TOS is that no one had to explain to us in TNG what a replicator was: We already knew.

 

[dahj]

In any discussion of the appropriateness of such depictions of WWII

I don't think it's inappropriate, it's just that the overall tone and the threat don't gel right in this case.
I'm fine with wacky Nazis otherwise, Nazis and similarly evil groups should be made fun of and pointed out just how ridiculous they are.

This episode should settle any debate that this Enterprise had replicators. McCoy's instant Nazi uniform with computer mis-sized boots are a shoe-in on that subject.

Or they just had some on hand for use on the holodeck...

 

[The Old Mixer]

Tonight's 50th anniversary episode of Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In included a sight gag of a MISTER SPOCK FOR PRESIDENT sign.

 

[Tallguy]

Or they just had some on hand for use on the holodeck...

I will go to my grave saying that TOS (TAS) had holodecks.

You know, someone from 1766 would not differentiate much from sound systems in 1966 vs. 2018. Both would be miraculous and would be playing recreations of musicians and performers on demand. Yet WE would scoff that they are VERY VERY different things.

 

[Poltargyst]

Tonight's 50th anniversary episode of Rowan & Martin's Laugh-In included a sight gag of a MISTER SPOCK FOR PRESIDENT sign.

I wonder how that would work. He wasn't born in the United States, but would he be eligible if his mother was?

 

[Poltargyst]

I will go to my grave saying that TOS (TAS) had holodecks.

I don't believe TOS did, but TAS certainly did.

 

[Tallguy]

I don't believe TOS did, but TAS certainly did.

Unless it was some kind of... Practical joke!

 

[dahj]

You know, someone from 1766 would not differentiate much from sound systems in 1966 vs. 2018.

Well we don't know that, since everyone who's traveled back in time to conduct that experiment was immediately burned as a witch.

 

[Tallguy]

Well we don't know that, since everyone who's traveled back in time to conduct that experiment was immediately burned as a witch.

That's why you bring THEM forward! Think it through!

 

[dahj]

That's why you bring THEM forward! Think it through!

Don't be silly, if you bring them forward you'd inevitably expose them to other stuff besides sound systems thereby contaminating the experiment.

 

[wayne66]

I always wondered how the two different people got along after the Enterprise left. Did they end up as good candidates for federation membership or did they continue to have difficulty with each other? One side did try and annihilate the other. I would imagine it would take a lot of forgiveness to let that kind of hate go. This seemed like a good planet for Federation diplomats to come in and negotiate some kind of agreement between the two peoples.

 

[dahj]

"By Any Other Name", Episode 51, February 23rd

Tonight's Episode: Aliens steal the Enterprise and take it for a joyride.

 

[Tallguy]

Is there a more continuity filled episode in TOS? They reference, what? Three other specific episodes? In detail?

For TOS that's a record.

 

[Vger23]

"By Any Other Name", Episode 51, February 23rd

Tonight's Episode: Aliens steal the Enterprise and take it for a joyride.

Is there a more continuity filled episode in TOS? They reference, what? Three other specific episodes? In detail?

For TOS that's a record.

I always liked this one, but feel it suffers from the "Requiem for Methuselah " disease where it should have taken place over several days or weeks as opposed to hours to seem plausible.

 

[The Old Mixer]

Star Trek
"By Any Other Name"
Originally aired February 23, 1968
Stardate 4657.5

The Enterprise's command crew must thwart an invasion by aliens from another galaxy who plan to conquer this one.

What was going on the week the episode aired.

Fun 50th Anniversary Fact: Barbara Bouchet was doing double duty on NBC this night...she also guested on the episode of Tarzan that aired the hour before! ("Jungle Ransom," alongside Ted Cassidy, no less.)

Nimoy and Kelley do a much better job acting frozen than Shatner does. The Shat can barely contain himself! Nichols isn't very convincing either.

A decent concept episode. Scotty getting the Kelvan drunk is a classic bit.

Is there a more continuity filled episode in TOS? They reference, what? Three other specific episodes? In detail?

I caught "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "A Taste of Armageddon"...what's the third?

Because 1968 was a leap year and 2018 isn't, this is the last week that we'll have day/date sync with the nights that the episodes originally aired. Starting next week, the dates of the original airings will fall on Thursdays, FWIW.

Next week...before Schoolhouse Rock, we had Ee'd Plebnista:

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[Tallguy]

I caught "Where No Man Has Gone Before" and "A Taste of Armageddon"...what's the third?

I thought there was a third. I can certainly be mistaken. Maybe it's just because they reference WNMHGB so much.

Next week...before Schoolhouse Rock, we had Ee'd Plebnista:

This! SO THIS!

 

[The Old Mixer]

The bit about Vulcans finding meditation more relaxing than vacation calls back to a similar assertion in "Shore Leave," but that's a little more tenuous as a direct episode reference.

 

[dahj]

Because 1968 was a leap year and 2018 isn't, this is the last week that we'll have day/date sync with the nights that the episodes originally aired. Starting next week, the dates of the original airings will fall on Thursdays, FWIW.

Yay, the show is moving out of the Friday night death slot... I guess this guarantees season 3!

 

[dahj]

If I'm not mistaken, Thompson is the first dead redskirt, and the first dead yeoman since The Cage.

I guess espers aren't allowed on starships anymore? Somebody going all Mitchell on Kelvans would have sure come in handy this time, they could have whooped their Cthulhu-like asses all the way to Andromeda.

The one moment I find very un-Kirk-like here is his confused bewilderment at the mere suggestion, then hesitation and ultimately refusal to blow up the ship at the barrier in order to prevent an invasion.

I didn't notice a direct reference to a third episode either. The meditation thing did remind me of Shore Leave, and "I don't usually beat up women" reminded me of Gamesters, but that's it.

It's a fun episode, there's some silly implications by it(only one species that has conquered the entire Andromeda galaxy, one that's over twice the size of Milky Way?), and it's best not to dwell on how in the heck 400 people couldn't find a way to just tackle those 5 even with the paralyzing thingy(approach from multiple vectors people, multiple vectors! ) but in the end the ultimate solution and a good takeaway for all is that the best way to prevent a war and find common ground between different peoples is with lots of booze and sex... truly a lesson to live by!

 

[omnirad]

I wonder if Sylvia & Korob from 'Catspaw' were related to the Kelvans. Both were from another galaxy and were undone by foolish human sensations and emotions. Maybe immense creatures with a hundred limbs start out as baby crab legs.