Right on, it is. But is it the same in Way to Eden and I, Mudd? And was it a standing set?
Mistakes You Thought Were Made In OS, But Weren't
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Probably a logging/paperwork matter. Caller identifies oneself and it's logged
Or just habit. I have caller ID and recognize voices, yet some people still feef the need to identify themselves when they call. My voice mail records date and time but callers still leave the date, time and phone number.
We've had to block my wife's idiot uncle on the phone as he just keeps ringing even though we don't answer him! I used to put on a mad Arab accent and threaten to kill him as a joke but my wife told me off for doing so! 
I never understood her reasoning as she can't stand the guy either! 
JB
I never understood her reasoning as she can't stand the guy either! JB
I figured it was there were differences between the internal layout of the Enterprise and the Constellation. While Kirk knew basically where the aux. control room on the Constellation should be, he still had to look for it. What we saw was Kirk running across the room he was looking for.
Interesting thought; I had considered it too. But after doing some more research and finding a whole page on the subject by the awesome Feek, it appears there was a second door there in DM, and there could have been one in other episodes as well.
Where No Man Has Gone Before
Mistake I thought was made
At the end of the episode, Kirk hits Gary Mitchell point blank with fire from the phaser rifle and it has no effect. Later he uses the phaser rifle to collapse the rocks on Mitchell, apparently killing him
Why it wasn't a mistake:
Two possibilities:
1) Mitchell at the end was already too weak from fighting Dr. Dehner and couldn't prevent being crushed by tons of rock. This seemed likeliest to me until...
2) When Kirk fired the phaser rifle at Mitchell it was only set on stun. Consider this: Kirk throughout the episode was very reluctant to kill Mitchell or even maroon him on the planet. At the end when Mitchell and Dehner walk off together, there is absolutely no reason for Kirk to go after them. He can just beam back to the Enterprise and warp away leaving Mitchell there (and Dehner who had gone with him willingly, she announced she was staying earlier). Mitchell would be marooned just as was planned.
The only thing that remotely makes sense is that Kirk was going to take one last chance on incapacitating Mitchell and bringing him back. Its possible Kirk was inspired to change plans due to the encounter with the forcefield changing Mitchell briefly back to normal. Kirk could've reasoned that heavy enough phaser stun would've brought Mitchell back for good.
I would like to note something else just in passing:
While Kirk underestimated Mitchell's growing power, Spock underestimated Mitchell's humanity. Spock before Mitchell escaped at the end said they "would be lucky to get out of here alive". Yet after strangling Lee Kelso (to prevent him from blowing the complex up) Mitchell simply knocked Kirk, Spock, and Dr. Mark Piper out (apparently harmlessly) and took no further actions against them or the Enterprise. He just took Dehner and walked away.
Further note: Many have noted that as the episode went on, Mitchell was getting grayer and grayer indicating his physical body was under great strain from his mental powers. I'm sure Kirk noticed this and one could infer that Mitchell would not live long anyway under that kind of strain.
Mistake I thought was made
At the end of the episode, Kirk hits Gary Mitchell point blank with fire from the phaser rifle and it has no effect. Later he uses the phaser rifle to collapse the rocks on Mitchell, apparently killing him
Why it wasn't a mistake:
Two possibilities:
1) Mitchell at the end was already too weak from fighting Dr. Dehner and couldn't prevent being crushed by tons of rock. This seemed likeliest to me until...
2) When Kirk fired the phaser rifle at Mitchell it was only set on stun. Consider this: Kirk throughout the episode was very reluctant to kill Mitchell or even maroon him on the planet. At the end when Mitchell and Dehner walk off together, there is absolutely no reason for Kirk to go after them. He can just beam back to the Enterprise and warp away leaving Mitchell there (and Dehner who had gone with him willingly, she announced she was staying earlier). Mitchell would be marooned just as was planned.
The only thing that remotely makes sense is that Kirk was going to take one last chance on incapacitating Mitchell and bringing him back. Its possible Kirk was inspired to change plans due to the encounter with the forcefield changing Mitchell briefly back to normal. Kirk could've reasoned that heavy enough phaser stun would've brought Mitchell back for good.
I would like to note something else just in passing:
While Kirk underestimated Mitchell's growing power, Spock underestimated Mitchell's humanity. Spock before Mitchell escaped at the end said they "would be lucky to get out of here alive". Yet after strangling Lee Kelso (to prevent him from blowing the complex up) Mitchell simply knocked Kirk, Spock, and Dr. Mark Piper out (apparently harmlessly) and took no further actions against them or the Enterprise. He just took Dehner and walked away.
Further note: Many have noted that as the episode went on, Mitchell was getting grayer and grayer indicating his physical body was under great strain from his mental powers. I'm sure Kirk noticed this and one could infer that Mitchell would not live long anyway under that kind of strain.
Kirk should have left me alone!
About the hair: I wasn't under any strain. My hair was changing color because the power that was inside me and showing in my eyes was increasing and starting to come out of my hair follicles. I would have been all silver if I had been left alone.
About the hair: I wasn't under any strain. My hair was changing color because the power that was inside me and showing in my eyes was increasing and starting to come out of my hair follicles. I would have been all silver if I had been left alone.
Perhaps the rational side of the man was horrified by the killing.
I've always thought that Gary Mitchell was mutating although the theory about his body aging or not being able to take the strain is a good one!
JB
JB
We've had to block my wife's idiot uncle on the phone as he just keeps ringing even though we don't answer him! I used to put on a mad Arab accent and threaten to kill him as a joke but my wife told me off for doing so!
JB
My dear 95-year-old Mother likes to call and let it ring 3 times, then hang up. So, I put down my drink, jump out of the chair, and run to the phone, only to hear a dial tone. I asked her not to do it several times, but she's at the age where she does what she wants, and doesn't care what anyone thinks.
Because they're like bots in an RPG which have their own independent routine, plus, they were entertaining virtual characters to watch. You're supposed to empathize for the good guys even if they're somewhere between holograms and androids.
HaHaHaHa We've got same that agreement with my Mother too! That way we don't answer unwanted callers and we allow the message device to take their call but my Mother just rings three times, stops and then rings another three times which isn't always enough time to reach the phone!!! We originally told her to ring three times, wait and then ring normally but she is in her late eighties and is sometimes hard to get through to!
JB
Friday's Child
Mistake I Thought Was Made
When the fake distress call comes in from the Deidra, it reports itself as a freighter under Klingon attack and that "two escort ships have already been damaged"- from what I know about escort operations of merchant ships in the World Wars, one of the escort ships was in overall command of the convoy, so instead of the freighter sending the distress call it should've been one of the escorts calling Enterprise for assistance.
Why It's Not A Mistake
Two reasons:
1) The fake message from the Deidra reports that "two escorts have already been damaged" so the Klingons might've figured that Enterprise would figure that the escorts had already lost communications capability.
2) Starfleet crews generally seem to know each other. The Klingons probably naturally assumed that a fake message from an escort ship (presumably a Starfleet ship) might be recognized by members of the Enterprise crew if any of them had happened to have served with the escort ship commander.
Mistake I Thought Was Made
When the fake distress call comes in from the Deidra, it reports itself as a freighter under Klingon attack and that "two escort ships have already been damaged"- from what I know about escort operations of merchant ships in the World Wars, one of the escort ships was in overall command of the convoy, so instead of the freighter sending the distress call it should've been one of the escorts calling Enterprise for assistance.
Why It's Not A Mistake
Two reasons:
1) The fake message from the Deidra reports that "two escorts have already been damaged" so the Klingons might've figured that Enterprise would figure that the escorts had already lost communications capability.
2) Starfleet crews generally seem to know each other. The Klingons probably naturally assumed that a fake message from an escort ship (presumably a Starfleet ship) might be recognized by members of the Enterprise crew if any of them had happened to have served with the escort ship commander.
I think it says "two convoy ships." Which could still raise the question of why the freighter is calling and not the escort, but also the question of why the convoy at all? Have the Klingons been regularly preying on Federation shipping in the area? The point is a good one, a message from a Starfleet vessel might have enough mistakes or miscues to give it away as a fake as compared to a message from a merchant vessel.
The line is definitely "two convoy ships."
Do we know who did the voice? It doesn't sound like Jimmy.
Right, I think that's Walker Edmiston. Also Vulcan Space Command in Amok Time and, I think, one of the three Providers in Gamesters. Very cool and distinctive voice.
If he said "two convoy ships" and not "two escort ships" then I've made a huge error since it is possible that a convoy of freighters would be operating together and functioning as their own escorts.
Further, Scotty's thinking that "how would a freighter know we were in the area" would not be that accurate. It stands to reason that a convoy of Federation freighters operating near the Klingon border would be informed before getting underway regarding Starfleet vessels operating near the area for just that type of emergency.
Further, Scotty's thinking that "how would a freighter know we were in the area" would not be that accurate. It stands to reason that a convoy of Federation freighters operating near the Klingon border would be informed before getting underway regarding Starfleet vessels operating near the area for just that type of emergency.
So he's like the "Siri" of the 23rd century.
The Klingon problem really should have been settled after Errand of Mercy or has everyone forgotten about The Organian decree?
I know they mentioned The Organian peace treaty in Trouble With Tribbles but in every other Klingon episode or film it's been safely ignored!!
JB
I know they mentioned The Organian peace treaty in Trouble With Tribbles but in every other Klingon episode or film it's been safely ignored!!
JB
