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News They can't use stuff from ANY Trek movie!

It hasn't happened yet (at this rate there will be a Moon Knight trilogy or Great Lakes Avengers movie in the 2030's), .

My money is on MOON KNIGHT hitting TV first. And, yes, I can't wait.

But since when was TRON "a proven in-house franchise"? I know it has a following, but . . . .
 
My money is on MOON KNIGHT hitting TV first. And, yes, I can't wait.
Agree with you on Moon Knight :D

But since when was TRON "a proven in-house franchise"? I know it has a following, but . . . .
It made a profit on both movies, just not Disney level profits. A more struggling studio probably would have been happy with the returns. Tron had tie in games (a given), tie-in animated series, and a fanbase that waited decades for a return, and is waiting once again. I'd say it counts.

Oz is another series Disney has attempted a couple of times now. They may try again (anyone can, most of the books are in public domain) .
 
Tron had tie in games (a given), tie-in animated series, and a fanbase that waited decades for a return, and is waiting once again.

Wasn't the animated series a ratings flop, though? It only got one season (though it was arguably better than the movie it was a prequel to).
 
Oz is another series Disney has attempted a couple of times now. They may try again (anyone can, most of the books are in public domain) .

Oz
. All I can think of is the 1997-2003 HBO Series by Tom Fontana that takes place in a maximum security prison. Definitely not the type of show Disney would make...
 
My money is on MOON KNIGHT hitting TV first. And, yes, I can't wait.

But since when was TRON "a proven in-house franchise"? I know it has a following, but . . . .

Two films, a cartoon series, three recentish video games, and I think a book. Soundtrack spinoff album too.
Edit. Oops. Someone beat me to it.
 
But is it one you would *return to*
(I would, with Fairuza Balk.)

"Return"? What are you trying to say? :p

But, anyway, on a more serious note, I'd definitely much rather visit L. Frank Buam's Oz than Tom Fontana's where I'd have "girlfriend" written all over me.

Shifting back to movie stuff in DSC, though... Half-built Space Dock!
 
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"Return"? What are you trying to say? :p

But, anyway... on a more serious note: I'd definitely much rather visit L. Frank Buam's Oz than Tom Fontana's where I'd have "girlfriend" written all over me.

But, shifting back to movie stuff in DSC. Half-built Space Dock!

Yup. A,azo get to think the EMH was in beta for so long....
Oh. The giant mushroom...
 
I doubt the argument can be made that preventing the consolidation of entertainment represents an essential public interest.
 
This is why US-made shows and movies have a credit at the end saying "Studio Name Here is the Author of this motion picture under British law." That's how US studios maintain their ownership rights over their creations in terms of British law, where authors retain ownership rights.

Uh...thats a pretty weird construct. Would be interesting if it would hold without any problems if contested. If it were that easy anybody could just write "I`m the author of this under british law" under anything.
 
Uh...thats a pretty weird construct. Would be interesting if it would hold without any problems if contested. If it were that easy anybody could just write "I`m the author of this under british law" under anything.

I'm sure the credit is merely the public expression of something that's more precisely defined in the actual contracts and legalese. Most every credit you see onscreen in a movie or TV show represents many pages of paperwork between the studio and the party being credited.
 
Discovery writer Erika Lippoldt said in this interview:

Just because of the rights issue, we can’t use anything from the films, so that’s just something that we’re always aware of. ALL films, ’cause it’s a Paramount property, not CBS.

This is fascinating. Something there has been lots of speculation over regarding the Kelvin movies actually extends to content from ALL 13 films, which are owned by Paramount not CBS.

That means we'll never see Sybok, we'll never meet the Remans and I'm wondering if it might be the reason for the reimagined Klingons, whose bumpy head look and iconic ships (smooth grey TOS D7 aside) first appeared in movies I and III. Maybe it's even why the Klingon homeworld is "Qo'nos" in Discovery and "Kronos" in STVI (where the name originates) and Into Darkness??

Speculate away...
I said this a while ago, and it's nice to finally get a confirmation of it. Basically: the whole reason why they gave the "This is in the prime universe" spiel was because Paramount still retains the rights to the films, which includes the Kelvinverse movies, and CBS did not retain the rights to those films in the Viacom split. Put another way: CBS Studios as it exists today is what USED TO BE Paramount Broadcasting which was, in turn, a property of Paramount Pictures.

If Paramount were to start up its own TV broadcasting company, they could probably create their own version of Star Trek and CBS would have to sue them to try and get exclusive rights. And ironically, they would probably lose. Instead, the two studios are sort of respecting each other's turf here and not making a fuss over it, since neither of them really want to waste energy in a costly and complicated legal battle.

What I privately suspect is going to eventually happen is that CBS and Paramount will end up merging anyway or forging some sort of rights-sharing agreement that actually determines the status of the property, at which point the Discoverse and the Kelvinverse will simply be merged and the timeline differences explained away by somewhat unconvincing retcons.
 
I said this a while ago, and it's nice to finally get a confirmation of it. Basically: the whole reason why they gave the "This is in the prime universe" spiel was because Paramount still retains the rights to the films, which includes the Kelvinverse movies, and CBS did not retain the rights to those films in the Viacom split. Put another way: CBS Studios as it exists today is what USED TO BE Paramount Broadcasting which was, in turn, a property of Paramount Pictures.

If Paramount were to start up its own TV broadcasting company, they could probably create their own version of Star Trek and CBS would have to sue them to try and get exclusive rights. And ironically, they would probably lose. Instead, the two studios are sort of respecting each other's turf here and not making a fuss over it, since neither of them really want to waste energy in a costly and complicated legal battle.

What I privately suspect is going to eventually happen is that CBS and Paramount will end up merging anyway or forging some sort of rights-sharing agreement that actually determines the status of the property, at which point the Discoverse and the Kelvinverse will simply be merged and the timeline differences explained away by somewhat unconvincing retcons.


CBS does have rights to use material in the first 10 films. These films are also licenced though CBS Home Entertainment (DVD's Blu-rays etc..) that is controlled by CBS. Both companies sort of joint custody of the material from the first 10 films. It only the Abrams films that have different rights issues for the reasons I explained above. If CBS wants to use stuff from Abrams they have to also seek Bad Robots approval as well.
 
So, the topic has been debunked, yes?

Not really. Alex Kurtzman was pretty vague on this topic. This one is pretty straight forward, and coming from someone who is more in the day-to-day business of the show than Kurtzman was (he was directing the Mummy and creating the Universal monster universe at the time).

In terms of who's more believable, because she's more directly involved, I tend to go with Erika Lippoldt. But it's a personal judgement call. We don't really know, until we get confirmation for either from an additional source.
 
Of course they can use stuff from the movies. If we want to see a adventure with Captain Robu on the USS Kellven they just have to write it. Same thing with Romulen Captan Nearo. Admiral Markis can give orders to the Discovery if needed. No reason he can't be a high ranking Admiral in Starflit

Jason
 
Of course they can use stuff from the movies. If we want to see a adventure with Captain Robu on the USS Kellven they just have to write it. Same thing with Romulen Captan Nearo. Admiral Markis can give orders to the Discovery if needed. No reason he can't be a high ranking Admiral in Starflit

Jason
Isn't Ed Mercer a captain in Starflit?
 
Only in a alternate universe were people spell things differently and we saw him in that old video wearing a Starflit uniform commanding a ship with a Spock and Uhura that have had their minds transplanted also into new looking teenage bodies.

Jason

Nah, that was Spock's first Captain, before Pike.... straight out of the academy, the both of them!
 
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