A Serious Flaw In The Bridge Design?

[GNDN18]

But a stupid show like Lost in Space?

Lost in Space is curious in that the production designers put a lot of thought and effort into the creation of its signature sets. When Irwin Allen decided to expand the ship for plot reasons, the designers obliged by reforming the sets to match the existing model.

My point is the craftspeople seemed to have taken the project much more seriously than the writers or the producers. And that was Irwin Allen all the way: his pilot films always featured well-crafted, expensive sets with verisimilitude only to be used for a schlocky production run. As I said, “curious.”

 

[alensatemybuick1]

Yeah but the Robot was bigger on the inside.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

Back to Trek...why doesn't the bridge have transporter pads at each station that can be activated in an emergency? Are they afraid a crew member will chicken out ("I'm so done with this. Bye!") and beam themselves away in the middle of an attack?

 

[mos6507]

Transporters began to be used more and more casually as the Trek franchise progressed, like intra-ship beaming (without pads on both ends) and such, but in TOS it was seen as a fairly reliable but still delicate procedure, not something to be done casually.

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

But the temptation would be there, I imagine, if you're seriously freaked out, to hit the beam button and get the heck out of there.

And if it was used responsibly as an emergency measure, it would be helpful. Unless the ship takes a hit that scrambles you. But that's always the risk when you beam somewhere in the middle of danger.

 

[MarsWeeps]

I always imagined that Kirk's command chair platform would slide aside to give access to a hatchway.

 

[Qonundrum]

Someone would just stand there with a phaser and pick off the bridge crew as they attempted to leave.

Send some red shirts down the ladder first until the bad guys drain their phasers.

How many red shirts you planning to keep on the bridge?

Assuming the shooter isn't colorblind...

Or if Security division sent officers incognito, in blue or gold, there'd be a lot of apologies to issue...

 

[GNDN18]

How many red shirts you planning to keep on the bridge?

All of them.

Every last one.

 

[Herbert]

I’ve never really gotten the point of these kinds of discussions, but I can sorta appreciate how the plausibility Star Trek’s creators had strived for could cause some to want to try to figure such things out (like where the toilets were or whatever). But a stupid show like Lost in Space?

In the beginning, Lost in Space wasn't stupid. It started out as a serious science fiction show. Of course, we all know what happened later. However, even then there were still some really good episodes in between people in carrot outfits

 

[Herbert]

But the temptation would be there, I imagine, if you're seriously freaked out, to hit the beam button and get the heck out of there.

And if it was used responsibly as an emergency measure, it would be helpful. Unless the ship takes a hit that scrambles you. But that's always the risk when you beam somewhere in the middle of danger.

There is an episode, can't remember which one, where they are talking about intra-ship beaming and I think it's either Spock or Scotty mentions that it's somewhat dangerous and discouraged

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

What if said bridge transporter automatically locked onto whatever friendly/neutral structures/locations were available, like wifi hotspots? So if you hit the button, it would send you to the nearest friendly ship/starbase/liveable planet?

 

[DonIago]

The original Enterprise didn't seem to be at a level of technology where that would be feasible, much less practical.

 

[alensatemybuick1]

In the beginning. Lost in Space wasn't stupid. It started out as a serious science fiction show. Of course, we all know what happened later. However, even then there were still some really good episodes in between people in carrot outfits

The pilot and early eps may have had a more serious edge, but i’m not sure there was ever any serious effort made towards logical design / scientific validity on the part of the producers or writers. I buy what GNDN was saying about the production designers taking things a bit more seriously; their hearts may have been in the right place but I’ve read that Irwin Allen invited NASA to tour the production very early on hoping for some kind of “bragging rights” and they quickly distanced themselves from the show because the ship and technology were so implausible.

 

[scotpens]

There is an episode, can't remember which one, where they are talking about intra-ship beaming and I think it's either Spock or Scotty mentions that it's somewhat dangerous and discouraged

That was "Day of the Dove." First and only time intra-ship beaming was mentioned or used in the original series.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I always imagined that Kirk's command chair platform would slide aside to give access to a hatchway.

Slide, or get up on robot legs and walk around??

 

[Maurice]

The pilot and early eps may have had a more serious edge, but i’m not sure there was ever any serious effort made towards logical design / scientific validity on the part of the producers or writers. I buy what GNDN was saying about the production designers taking things a bit more seriously; their hearts may have been in the right place but I’ve read that Irwin Allen invited NASA to tour the production very early on hoping for some kind of “bragging rights” and they quickly distanced themselves from the show because the ship and technology were so implausible.

Frankly, the Enterprise is hardly more plausible, being that it features magic FTL engines and pixie dust teleporters. It just plays the part of "smart" SF better, but much of it is just as preposterous.

 

[Maurice]

Yep, seen the unaired pilot a few times and remember the ship was called Gemini 12! Can't say I remember them saying it was a single decked ship in that though but I'll take your word for it!The unused footage was then spliced in to the first five episodes and some of the eighth I believe, if not then the plot of the two aliens at the end at least!
JB

There's no "glide tube" elevator or ladder to go down to the lower deck in "No Where To Hide". And the ship exterior got revamped when they went to series and they thickened the underside to suggest there's room for a lower deck even though there's not. The blueprints for the J2 campsite set included a never-built section of the ship with a hole punched in it, meaning it would never fly again, as per the show's Swiss Family Robinson inspiration.

Not to go tooooo off-topic, but my buddy Bill George built a 4' Jupiter 2 model for his Sci-Fi Airshow site, which you can see marvelously presented in this video.

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And, frankly, I like the J2 interior sets more than a lot of the Enterprise sets.

 

[Galileo7]

There's no "glide tube" elevator or ladder to go down to the lower deck in "No Where To Hide". And the ship exterior got revamped when they went to series and they thickened the underside to suggest there's room for a lower deck even though there's not. The blueprints for the J2 campsite set included a never-built section of the ship with a hole punched in it, meaning it would never fly again, as per the show's Swiss Family Robinson inspiration.

Not to go tooooo off-topic, but my buddy Bill George built a 4' Jupiter 2 model for his Sci-Fi Airshow site, which you can see marvelously presented in this video.

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And, frankly, I like the J2 interior sets more than a lot of the Enterprise sets.

Here is a interesting walking tour of the J2 interior three decks.

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[alensatemybuick1]

Frankly, the Enterprise is hardly more plausible, being that it features magic FTL engines and pixie dust teleporters. It just plays the part of "smart" SF better, but much of it is just as preposterous.

Both shows require interstellar travel as a given, and thus require some suspension of disbelief, so I believe a gigantic "no shit" is in order here.

 

[Kronos]

Back to Trek...why doesn't the bridge have transporter pads at each station that can be activated in an emergency? Are they afraid a crew member will chicken out ("I'm so done with this. Bye!") and beam themselves away in the middle of an attack?

Guarantee there is some fan story out there about that happening.