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Babylon 5

Ship of Tears is on telly at the moment and it got me thinking about that telepath movie we never got. I read the Telepaph triology and they stood up well. Would Babylon 5 spinoffs work better without the branding?

Back when Torchwood was on, a colleague who’d raved about it was surprised to learn that it was a Dr Who, and that they would never have watched had they known, because Dr Who was shit, having never seen it.

As a fan, I gravitate to anything B5, but to win a new audience, the Babylon station is just a location.
 
It might be interesting to adapt the telepath trilogy into films without promoting them as B5-related, especially since very little (if any?) of the action occurs on the station.

OTOH, recasting some of the established characters would make me sad. :/
 
Trivia note: At one point JMS wrote a pilot for (iirc) the Sci-Fi Channel named Polaris that was set in the B5 universe but didn't have the B5 name. For whatever reason it never got made.
 
Sounds interesting, but we all know how Caprica turned out. :wah:

Well, more how Caprica started out. Caprica "turned out" with a robot beating a creepy terrorist to death with its own arm, which is the kind of inventive, borderline-comedic robot-violence late-period BSG made me fall in love with.
 
Ship of Tears is on telly at the moment and it got me thinking about that telepath movie we never got. I read the Telepaph triology and they stood up well. Would Babylon 5 spinoffs work better without the branding?
Wasn't Crusade just Crusade without any mention of B5 in the title?
 
Wasn't Crusade just Crusade without any mention of B5 in the title?
The title was just Crusade but it was marketed as 'from the creator of Babylon 5' - as much as they marketed it at all, of course.

That said, I have the whole series in my collection but I didn’t make it to the end.
'Thanks' to TNT, the episodes were watered down. That said, the ones with the grey uniforms suffered the least meddling and are the better ones, IMO. But TNT mandated the uniform change and then insisted that those eps be shown first which didn't do anything good for continuity.
 
Crusade's continuity is a real mess. Somebody needs to make a chart with all the dependencies of which episodes reference which things happening in prior episodes. Maybe even tie it into a computer program so we can see which issues happen with each episode ordering scheme. Even the JMS order that ignores clothes-continuity entirely has one or two things happen after they've been described as being in the past in earlier episodes. I ended up developing my own order for the show, but it's been so long I can't remember what issues I was solving, specifically.
 
Is Crusade the show with a bunch of different episode orders from a bunch of different sources?
 
It is. Thing is, since JMS did what he could to mitigate the damage using editing and dialog replacement, there's simply *no* perfect order.
 
Is Crusade the show with a bunch of different episode orders from a bunch of different sources?

Crusade is what happens when THE NETWORK decides to take your high quality / moderate viewership cult sci-fi series to Primetime, but for this to work out they need to 'help'.
 
Crusade is what happens when THE NETWORK decides to take your high quality / moderate viewership cult sci-fi series to Primetime, but for this to work out they need to 'help'.
From what I've read it was more a case of deliberate sabotage by the network. Supposedly they wanted out of the contract as B5 wasn't doing bringing in the numbers they were hoping for. Apparently it wasn't the only time TNT pulled this stunt on showrunners to force out a show they didn't want on their channel anymore.
 
I have the CRUSADE dvd box set, first printing of them, that has the JMS commentary on one of the episodes that casts a pretty bad light on TNT. All later editions got rid of this commentary, if memory serves me.

I watched the show as it aired, and got the dvd the day it came out originally. CRUSADE had all the makings of being as good or better than B5. I was truly sad that it ended so quickly.
 
I think the official explanation was that TNT discovered that people who watched B5 didn't watch anything else that TNT aired, and the average TNT viewer didn't like B5. So they went out of their way to annoy JMS during production of Crusade, and created enough problems to justify cancelling Crusade before it even aired.

Aside: I'm listening to my B5 soundtrack CDs while I'm net surfing today. :)
 
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