I'll keep calling him Vash. We don't know where Picard's Vash came from anyway. That's a big plothole DISCO obviously tried to answer. (waiting for the sexchange episode, that will be a twist nobody will see coming...wait, now I spoiled it)
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x12 - "Vaulting Ambition"
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I think the Federation would have laws against eating sentient beings. Especially sentient beings who are members of the Federation.
The Terran Empire on the other hand, wouldn't have such values. But the Federation should.
yeah, wondering about point 1. of course someone will predict the reason in the next hour. Maybe I will stay off the podcasts and forums until the end of the season.
I sure Eaglemoss will have it with their STD collection.
I don’t know what’s going to happen next here. I can make an educated guess that most of these characters are going to die or get lost in one of those alternate universes by the end of the series. There are reasons why Sarek, Spock and Amanda don’t talk about Michael Burnham and it isn’t just because Vulcans don’t talk about personal matters or that she’s a mutineer. No one knows about the spore drive, either.
I still like Lorca, even if he is Mirror Lorca. He managed to act like a semblance of a good guy. I wonder how long he was in the Prime Universe. The Mirror Universe has neat looking uniforms and sets.
I still like Lorca, even if he is Mirror Lorca. He managed to act like a semblance of a good guy. I wonder how long he was in the Prime Universe. The Mirror Universe has neat looking uniforms and sets.
Well, given that Culbert was showing the same Spore corruption as Mirror Stamets we are likely looking at Mirror Culber who Mirror Stamets used as a test subject.
I agree so much.
If they make Lorca out to be some sort of villain, this will be so disappointing and such a waste. It's still possible that he is some sort of freedom fighter, but in this age of political correctness, I kind of doubt it.
In the Hollywood world of identity politics, every member of some identity group has to think exactly alike. All Star Fleet officers have to be enlightened socialists itching for the next chance to make a sanctimonious speech, all people from the MU have to be irredeemably evil (except for some in this thread, apparently the mass murdering and Kelpian-eating Georgiou is seen by some as virtuous compared to the EEEVILLL Lorca.)
We'll see what they do with Lorca. I hope they don't ruin the series I've been enjoying so soon.
another fan had mentioned that Klingons speak of drinking the blood of their enemies after battle in the original series or another series. Yeah, Federation wouldn't tolerate that.
The fact we don't have a word for that is because in reality, there is no sentient beings other homo sapiens left on earth today. Back in early days of human evolution, there is evidence that many humanoid species co-existed. Neanderthal DNA in some modern humans are just one proof that it happened.
have you bought any stuff from them before? How is quality, worth getting?
They’re good for the price but some do come broken from time to time. Usually you can get them easily replaced if so.
The more expensive, special edition ships are at a better quality. The STD ones will be that.
Bound to happen. All the fans chattering endlessly about the show on Teh Interwebz is like a million monkeys coming up with a Shakespearean script. Was just a matter of time and probabilities. And monkeys. Lots of monkeys.
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Lorca is a compelling character who I find fascinating to watch but I think he's no longer someone I can root for. Rewatching this episode before I say for sure. There are some things I need to listen to again very carefully.
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7 out of 10 from me this week. Solid episode, but a few things knock the score down:
1. 37 minutes? Really?
2. Way, way too much head exploding and blood for my liking.
1. 37 minutes? Really?
2. Way, way too much head exploding and blood for my liking.
My guess is it has something to do with the mycelial network being essentially, for the purposes of this story, omnipresent. It exists in all universes and timelines, and is not constrained by linear time itself. So I don't think he was necessarily the soul of Culber, but capable of both existing and not existing at the same time thanks to the network. So I do believe it's Stamets' Culber, just not in the same way as one would be a ghost or possess a soul.
No - they gave some blatant hints (especially in the episode the week before tonight's) that it was MU Lorca we were dealing with. They by design gave viewers who were playing close attention all the clues they needed.
I didn't buy the fan theory: "The Lorca who Captains the U.S.S. Discovery is actually from the MU..." until last week (and even then I wondered if they were just throwing the stuff where Burnham commented on how the light of the MU seemed different; and the scene showing her being served in the MU exactly the same thing we saw Lorca eating in an early episode of ST: D. Lorca's also been shown a 'light sensitive from his first appearance.
I'll be honest and say I'm disappointing that they have Lorca being from the MU because I think he was a character more in the actual TOS mold - but that's what happens when you let the guys who worked on ST:VOY (which was crap front to back) do their interpretation of the TOS era.
Still, it's pretty obvious it wasn't a secret they were desperately trying to hide/keep from the audience (and if they had I sure many would have considered it a cheap last minute stunt - but it's clear this was another planned story element/twist from the very start - and they were dropping hints to the audience all through the season (IE Lorca's oddly shaped scarson his back; and the fact he slept with a Phaser in his bed and his reaction to the Starfleet Admiral waking him in an earlier episode).
Again, it's not a deal breaker for me, but I do find it disappointing that he's not from the version of the Star Trek Prime Universe they are presenting (which I'm also sure that while it's very close to the PU the actual TOS TV series and films we've seen for the past 50+ years, it's also now obvious these writers intention is that it's still not the actual TOS PU that the original series and films took place in - and that's fine with me too at this point).
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My score: 8
Again, somewhat disappointed the these writers made the Captain of Discovery Lorca a 'transfer' from the MU; but as I said above, it's also obvious the PU that Burnham and the U.S.S. Discovery of this show came from ISN'T the original Star Trek series PU (just something somewhat close in a lot of ways) too.
Kinda wish the actual writers WERE actual fans of the TOS era. But after this, no they don't come across as such for me. Not a deal breaker though as their 23rd century universe has some interesting aspects, but their ST:VOY roots are plain to see.
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Yeah, it's one of those "oh, COOL" things on the surface that when processed just dilutes the emotional impact of the character and makes you question why the hell they wanted us to become invested in him to begin with. I still like Isaacs and the character but he'd be so much more interesting were he a Captain from our side who just happened to be an asshole trying to do the right thing when needed.
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Part of that is due to how storytelling has changed. Stories were kept simple and straightforward in the past. Actions were taken because they were deemed appropriate. By the time of TNG and DS9, situational context had grown in scope, so everything had to have a reason. You didn't just fire phasers, you built up the story to the point where the only option left was to fire phasers, and even then, precious story time was set aside to explain exactly why they were going to fire phasers. It's why technobabble became such a staple in modern Treks, because you couldn't just do something, you had to explain why, and spoon feed it to the audience. As much as I enjoy it, VOY was the worst offender for this kind of storytelling. In short, studios generally feel audiences are too stupid to accept that something happens because it happens, and that everything needs a wholly fleshed out underlying reason.
I thought it was a pretty decent episode. I see people knocking the short runtime but was it missing anything or rushed? I kind of like that they can tell a story in an episode and run short or long depending on the needs of the episode rather than to fit some absolute time box.
I can see how it's annoying if watching on commercial TV (Canadians?) but I think most are streaming. I may be spoiled because I abuse the hell out of my 30-second skip button on my DVR when watching TV so I don't really notice whether ads are heavy or not most of the time.
I can see how it's annoying if watching on commercial TV (Canadians?) but I think most are streaming. I may be spoiled because I abuse the hell out of my 30-second skip button on my DVR when watching TV so I don't really notice whether ads are heavy or not most of the time.
