I guarantee you, the general public doesn't give two hoots about Trek fans no matter what Newsweek says.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Um, no they're not. To believe otherwise is ridiculous in that a fraction of the original Axanar Backers (what 14,000 total) who somehow still believe this grifter will deliver something (after blowing $2 million in backer funds on a failed attempt to run a for profit studio) are 'angry' at CBS.
The majority of the public (once made aware of the FULL FACTS of the situation) - usually agree that CBS couldn't let such an illegal and egregious attempt at profiting from the Star Trek IP without any sort of license agreement, stand or continue.
I'd guess that on any given day, at least 14K people are angry at CBS for something.
Probably because of something you did with your time ship, Captain Forman. You should've gone to church with your wife instead of tinkering away trying to re-write history so that the Packers would win the super bowl .
So why didn't / doesn't CBS counter such articles with said FULL FACTS?? This thread and Axamonitor seem to be the only two places anyone can find the real story. {sigh}
Because the lawsuit DIDN'T REALLY HAVE ANY EFFECT on their overall image - and thus, not an issue worth bringing up. As far as they're concerned, the situation is over/under control (As long as Peter's doesn't blatantly violate the settlement agreement.).
I don't think it's entirely fair to single Io9 out for this, when every single article I saw in the mainstream media talking about Axanar took this perspective.New on AxaMonitor: io9 chronicles the 100 most important moments in pop culture history since it began publication 10 years ago. Axanar ranks No. 54, which is fine, but most of what io9 describes is simply wrong. Here's AxaMonitor's fact-check.
Have you tried talking to them about this? From what I've seen they usually seem to be pretty good about correcting errors when they are pointed out.
Like I said with the Io9 article, the problem is that in the vast majority of the mainstream media articles, they talked to Alec Peters and/or his supporters and they almost all ended up being about the big bad corporation suing the poor fan who just wanted to fulfill his life long dream and make a fan film.
So for the majority of people who don't actually follow the details, all they know is that CBS sued a guy who was trying to make fan film.
It must be disappointing for Alec's supporters they're only getting 30mins of something. Could he give the remainder back to his backers?
Remainder of what? Money? That’s gone. Movie? That hasn’t been made. Sushi? I wouldn’t eat something given to me by Alec.
I missed both of those myself. And the RMB thing. Just unbelievable to me. And Bill Hunt and Trekyards too? Just so wrong. These people were loyal to a fault. Just unbelievable.
I really thought the defendant couldn't do anything more to surprise me. And here I am again, just like that first week of January
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I'll be shocked if they get 30 min of anything............
It's not even a blip on the "mainstream" radar. Search CBS Sues Trek Fans. The last article was January 2017, a year ago, and the only ones that come close to "mainstream" are from 2016.
The only people still talking about it are AP, the Axahats, and We Who Point and Laugh.
There's nothing to give back.
The only people who ever got refunds (a) hadn't donated a lot and (b ) were kicking up a fuss in the Kickstarter and Indiegogo comment sections and that told other donors the truth. AP didn't like that, so he forcibly refunded people and that was the only way he could scrub their comments.
Nice, eh?
There are no funds left. Hell, the court documents don't even have the entire accounting but they say he spent $$ on restaurant meals, insurance, pre-check for flights, tires for his car, and more. And then there's the matter of the property in Valencia, California, which was intended to become a 'studio' which they could rent out to other productions, both fan and otherwise.
Yes, he wasn't just infringing on CBS and Paramount's intellectual property rights; he was also looking to use stolen IP to launch a startup for-profit business.
BTW, IIRC, the monthly rent on that location was $15k. And it never became a studio because nobody ever did any of the scut work.
Startups are expensive to start and they require serious labor. I worked for a startup about 8 years ago and I recall running through the streets of Cambridge, in heels, to buy batteries with my own money, during an event. You just do things like that when you are in a startup. I never saw anybody in their organization, ever, behave even remotely like that.
They wanted it all handed to them on a silver platter. And then they were shocked - shocked! - that the only thing handed to them was a summons.
So, is that fraud? I really feel like the donors have legal standing to sue, but I don't know the law.
If effect yes. But a civil lawsuit would cost money (IE more money) and most pledged between $35 - $100 - so yeah, in the end such a lawsuit is more hassle than it's worth. In the end Alec could also just declare bankruptcy (again) too.
Also, Alec did this via legitimate crowdfunding sites that warn you "Hey, this may not result in you getting what you want..."; and in the end, it's just not 'criminal enough' to make law enforcement act to bring criminal charges either. maybe if there had been more of a Backer outcry; but just look on twitter and the Axanar site and you STILL have people believing (after 3+ years) that Alec will deliver some new 'Axanar' production to them - so yeah, most have chalked it up to 'Lesson learned and I lost about one night out at a good restaurant'; and others 'still believe.'
Sorry, I was talking about back when the lawsuit first started. Back then there were quite a few article popping up even on the big new sources like CNN, and as far I remember the vast majority of them were about the poor little fan who was sued by the big bad corporation.
It's not even a blip on the "mainstream" radar. Search CBS Sues Trek Fans. The last article was January 2017, a year ago, and the only ones that come close to "mainstream" are from 2016.
The only people still talking about it are AP, the Axahats, and We Who Point and Laugh.
It blows my mind that people still believe in Alec.
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