My first thought.
Hadn't thought of that.
haha!
Whenever I see scenes like that, I worry that the participant(s) will snap out of it by accident and reveal themselves.
Spoilers The Flash - Season 4
- Thread starter dahj
- Start date
Well we did see Barry in jail at the end of season 1
What if they'd arranged to have the Flash testify in Barry's defense? They could've used H.R.'s hologram gadget to disguise someone else (Ralph?) as Barry at the defense table while the Flash took the stand. I know having a masked superhero testify is legally iffy (though there are cases of witnesses testifying anonymously to protect them from retaliation), but the Flash is such an admired hero in Central City that they might've allowed it. Besides, one objection to a masked hero testifying is that you can't prove the person under the mask is actually the hero, but it'd be pretty easy for the Flash to prove in court that he's a speedster.
Yeah, I thought that last season on Arrow - knowing they *could* have gotten him makes it hurt a bit more. Human Target (season 1, at least) was one of the most amazing shows I've seen in awhile, with a fantastic score, cinematic stunts and high octane action that i'd rarely seen on network TV at that point. The retooling of the second season was atrocious, especially after waiting to resolve that cliffhangar...
like Jay? Hard to imagine the writers missing the opportunity to show Jay visiting Barry in prison. The reverse imagery of Barry visiting Henry.
Barry wouldn't take the stand because he didn't want to lie under oath. I doubt he'd have gone for something like that.
Really, he's in jail because he didn't want to lie or tell the truth. Maybe he deserves to be there.
Yeah, but I'm suggesting maybe they could've worked around the parts he couldn't talk about without lying. Again, remember, the defense didn't have to prove Barry's innocence -- it just had to create reasonable doubt that he might have been framed. The Flash could've testified to what he knew about the DeVoes and their plans.
Although I guess it would've been hard to avoid getting trapped in a question he couldn't answer. Maybe you're right that it wouldn't have worked, but it's interesting to wonder about.
But if he's that honest that he won't lie about his secret identity under oath, then he wouldn't pull a fraud like that off in court either. It's an even bigger and more elaborate lie.
Was Barry's help really necessary to contain Fallout's meltdown? I thought all that was needed was for Cisco to breach him into a different Earth, which was exactly what he did.
I admired Ralph Dibney for dissuading Joe from planting evidence into Marlize's house. He really has come a long way from being a shady private detective to a crimefighting team member.
The sentencing scene was nicely done while Captain Singh was simultaneously giving an accolade to the Flash for having saved the city from certain nuclear destruction.
I admired Ralph Dibney for dissuading Joe from planting evidence into Marlize's house. He really has come a long way from being a shady private detective to a crimefighting team member.
The sentencing scene was nicely done while Captain Singh was simultaneously giving an accolade to the Flash for having saved the city from certain nuclear destruction.
No -- Harry said that dropping Fallout into a breach would trigger an explosion before he could pass through, so they couldn't send him to another Earth. All Vibe did was to open a breach in the sky overhead to allow the energy/radiation to pass through to the vacant Earth-15 once the Flash channeled it upward with the vacuum (and there is nothing about that sentence that makes physical sense, but whatever). Once Fallout's energy burst was spent, he was still there in Central City, and there was a line later about him being taken into custody, presumably in Iron Heights' meta wing with his powers damped.
Well, there's one thing about the physics that made sense. In a way, creating a vacuum around a nuclear bomb would minimize its blast effects, since most of the blast effects come from the sudden superheating and expansion of the surrounding air. But the radiation itself would still spread outward in all directions. There's no way to channel it strictly upward.
Also, I really hope Cisco's aim was good. Be a shame if that burst of radiation emerged in a populated alternate of Central City.
Yeah, that was good. It took me a moment to remember that he'd been fired for planting evidence, so he was speaking from personal experience.
Yeah, good juxtaposition. Although the judge's, err, judgment of Barry's utter depravity seemed excessive.
Also, how did Singh know so much about the details of the fight? Did Vibe stay to talk to the authorities or something?
I thought so, too.
All I can say is that Cecile is the worst defense lawyer since John Gibbons in My Cousin Vinny. They really did a disservice to the character. And Barry couldn't have been more stupid with his defense. Yes I get that Joe is dating Cecile, but maybe with your life on the line, it might make sense to hire a better lawyer.
That was my first reaction too. But when you consider how emotionless Barry was throughout the trial and how half-hearted his plea for innocence was, I could see how a judge might mistake his behavior as cold-hearted and even sociopathic.
----
Honestly, I don't really get why Barry was so resigned right from the beginning to go to jail. He acted like he wanted to go to jail. Does he have a secret plan against the thinker? I get that he did not want to reveal his secret identity or lie in court but not even trying to put up any kind of defense at all? And Cecile was a terrible lawyer. Why not have Iris or Joe as character witnesses? And why didn't Iris have a running recording in her purse when she confronted the Mechanic outside the court room? If she had secretly recorded the conversation, that would have exonerated Barry.
But he's just so boyishly innocuous and endearing!
It's more that he just accepts it. His timeless time in the Speed Force gave him sort of a saintly detachment, and he just feels he can cope with whatever comes.
Plus, he feels connected to his father, who went through the same kind of ordeal and was eventually redeemed. He has faith that his family and friends will fight for him the way he kept fighting for Henry.
That is a perfect explanation of his character. Barry does indeed seem very relaxed and mellow now, like the Bobby McFerrin song "Don't worry, be happy".
Also, maybe Barry has decided not to actively try to resist the Thinker but rather let his plan work itself out until he can figure out the Thinker's ultimate goal? After all, it is clear in the earlier episodes that trying to directly foil the thinker does not work since the Thinker has planned for it. So instead, it is probably better to take a wait and see approach and figure what The Thinker's ultimate goal really is.
That reminds me of the Wonder Woman: The Golden Age Volume One collection I just finished reading. In those early stories, Wonder Woman was constantly allowing herself to be captured and placed into elaborate bondage, supposedly to let the villains take her to their hideouts or reveal their secret plans, but really just as an excuse for William Moulton Marston to indulge his bondage/submission fetish. It's a hoot.
Similar threads
