New Andorians
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I say keep the show in the mirror universe, and keep Starfleet HUMANS ONLY!!!!
Let Voq Tyler embrace his new humanity and lead the Terran Empire against the impure blood of, everyone else.
Let Michael unite with the great white hope in the MU and fight her own kind and show what a blood traitor she is..
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It's hard for me to understand why anyone thinks some eyebrow flair on an Andorian ruins the design.
We've seen no less than three different designs for Andorians in the past (TOS, The Voyage Home, ENT), all with antennae in different places, plus the Aenar are a thing. So it's conceivable that there are multiple Andorian ethnicities with some noticeable physical differences amongst them, and the guy with eyebrow flair is just one we haven't seen before.
The Tellarite is recognizable as a Tellarite. Fine with me.
We've seen no less than three different designs for Andorians in the past (TOS, The Voyage Home, ENT), all with antennae in different places, plus the Aenar are a thing. So it's conceivable that there are multiple Andorian ethnicities with some noticeable physical differences amongst them, and the guy with eyebrow flair is just one we haven't seen before.
The Tellarite is recognizable as a Tellarite. Fine with me.
I'm offended that there were any filthy Andorians in the first place.
That isn't the same thing at all. One of these things is real person, the other is a fictional character.
The Andorian changes are a lot more minor then the TOS to TMP Klingon changes.
I really don't mind minor changes like these and I don't need in-universe explanation for it. These retain the overall look and feel of the species, granted, the Tellarites look somewhat more fearsome than previously, but then again these are Mirror Tellarites.
I mean it doesn't bug me that the new Klingons don't have earlobes, but it bugs me a lot that they don't have any hair. Physiologically the former is obviously a much bigger change and would be way harder to explain in-universe if one so desired. But the latter just makes them look and feel completely different, and that bothers me way more.
I mean it doesn't bug me that the new Klingons don't have earlobes, but it bugs me a lot that they don't have any hair. Physiologically the former is obviously a much bigger change and would be way harder to explain in-universe if one so desired. But the latter just makes them look and feel completely different, and that bothers me way more.
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Yes, exactly. Klingons have gone through changes and evoutions, and the audience certainly hasn't been witness to all the details and reasons why. DISCO Klingons are Klingons, good bad or indifferent.
Maybe it’s Humans whose physiognomy stays consistent for thousands of years for a weird evolutionary reason?, and it’s normal for aliens to go through metamorphosic phases.
Keep in mind how you can restyle a cat or dog, and breed new kinds of them from one generation to the other.
Keep in mind how you can restyle a cat or dog, and breed new kinds of them from one generation to the other.
Some Romulans could've had ridges all along. Most of them wore helmets in their 2 episodes of TOS. I thought it was a good idea to make them look visually different to Vulcans.
The Klingon redesign from TOS to TMP was extremely drastic. There's no 2 ways about it. The explanation they gave was weak but plausible, however, by the time it arrived I'd long given up caring and preferred the redesign. I doubt I'll ever prefer the Discovery Klingons to their predecessors. I'd have liked them to be a different race completely. I'd even take the TOS Klingon over the Discovery ones but whatever.
You got a retcon based off a joke, 40 years after the fact. Andorians are blue skinned humanoids, this does not mean human.
Don't forget, everybody, that the Mirror Gorn looked somewat different from its counterpart in our universe. More raptor-like with humanoid eyes that had irises and pupils as opposed to the silvery compound eyes of the Gorn in "Arena(TOS)."
Different makeup. Different CGI. And a different universe!
Different makeup. Different CGI. And a different universe!
Byt that logic, we had just never seen this offshoot of Klingons either.
I like both the new Andorian and Tellarite makeups, though I'll admit I didn't recognize the Tellarite as being such until Tyler flashed back to T'Kuvma's speech that mentioned these species, and we saw the accompanying shots of the characters at the meeting. They do look really cool in that Entertainment Weekly pic.
Byt that logic, we had just never seen this offshoot of Klingons either.
I would buy that for a dollar. I think these Klingons may just be either a different sub-species, or a different mutation of the augment virus (think slightly de-evolved).
Or, at a longshot, part Hur'q
Byt that logic, we had just never seen this offshoot of Klingons either.
And now it's the only version we're seeing at all? Even in the Mirror Universe, on the High Council and every Klingon vessel encountered?
I would buy that for a dollar. I think these Klingons may just be either a different sub-species, or a different mutation of the augment virus (think slightly de-evolved).
Or, at a longshot, part Hur'q
It's a design reboot, and I would be shocked if there were any kind of in-universe explanation. (If CBS would just say the word "remake", I'd be cool with it). This is stage one of fan grief, which is the denial and search for plausible explanations. Stage two is anger. Stage three is bargaining; ie, emailing CBS with script ideas to right the wrongs. Stage four is depression that you have no power to change things. Stage five is getting into Star Wars for a while.
The Klingons are just Klingons, fair and simple. If one wants an explanation give it 40 years time, I'm sure some idiot will come up with a convoluted explanation for it.
This is really no issue one has to lose sleep over
This is really no issue one has to lose sleep over
There is zero reason or need to explain real world make up changes.
They don't need to say it, it's obvious that it's a visual reboot.
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