THE ORVILLE S1, E11 "NEW DIMENSIONS"

[Mark_Nguyen]

Dann's little more than a one-note character, a punching bag for comic relief. Besides, he's down in Engineering and not a navigator (though he seems to know his way around the ship's elevator system). I'd like him to stay there, it gives more excuses for more "lower decks" action to happen down there with three of the main or recurring cast being engineers now. None of our Starfleet engineers were that lucky, and I'm sure neither he nor Yaphet are going anywhere on account of their actors' personal friendships with the showrunner.

As for the bridge, TNG got away with the loss of Geordi and then Wesley just fine, to the point that later TV incarnations ditched the dual-upfront speaking characters altogether. I'm sure some background performer will be happy to take featured BG pay to sit up front and push buttons while in center focus.

Mark

 

[Ovation]

I hear Ensign Mayweather isn’t too busy these days.

 

[Sheep]

I also wonder about the Bridge dynamic. Certainly somebody has to fill his place, so will it be nameless/temporary named people or a whole new character?

Enter Ensign Catman from a species that looks strangely like earth's felines, serving as a bridge replacement for LaMarr and a socializing experiment for Isaac.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

I hear Ensign Mayweather isn’t too busy these days.

He's busy being in jail.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Another reason to make the Discovery/Orville comparisons is because they're like perfectly split among the two paths of scifi, light and fluffy vs dark and gritty. It's seriously like there was a transporter accident that split Star Trek into two opposite shows that have opposing sets of the attributes of Trek. Discussing them really gets to the heart of what you value in scifi.

 

[shivkala]

Yes, there is some merit in discussing their comparisons. However, when it is constant and overrides any other discussion, that's not a good sign. Also, when you have trouble praising one show without putting down the other, that's not a good sign, either. When your comparing them ends up beating a dead horse, that's not a good sign.

For reference:

 

[Satron]

Yes, there is some merit in discussing their comparisons. However, when it is constant and overrides any other discussion, that's not a good sign. Also, when you have trouble praising one show without putting down the other, that's not a good sign, either. When your comparing them ends up beating a dead horse, that's not a good sign.

For reference:

Do feel free to tell us how we can talk about any given topic.

 

[Mudd]

Well, you know, "the other" isn't very good. So...

 

[Mr Awe]

^ Nah, I think the Orville is good too.

 

[Borgminister]

The Orville had been want-to-see-TV to me, same as Discovery. Now I've skipped one episode of Orville and have needed 3 days to get through another, in part because of the disconnect between the lofty praise heaped on the former and abject vitriol spewed at the latter in these forums--when neither is true. I dislike both extremes, but since I tend to be more of an "if you have nothing nice to say" type of person, the negativity tends to repel me more than nonsensically flowery fanaticism about a show (or anything).

Anyway.

 

[Mudd]

You lasted longer than I did with the other show.

The response of other people online to entertainment I like actually has no effect whatever on my enjoyment of it.

 

[JD]

I finally got around to watching this one.
I was a little surprised they moved LaMarr down to engineering, but I'm not bothered by the change. Has anyone heard anything about why they decided to move him off the bridge?
The 2D space stuff was cool, and a nice bit of science.
I'm curious if we'll get any more stuff with Yaphit being pissed about being passed up for the promotion.

 

[shivkala]

Do feel free to tell us how we can talk about any given topic.

Okay, you can talk however you want, I've never said you couldn't I just see the relentless bashing as a sign that the show you are praising isn't able to stand on its own merits. Your mileage may vary.

I finally got around to watching this one.
I was a little surprised they moved LaMarr down to engineering, but I'm not bothered by the change. Has anyone heard anything about why they decided to move him off the bridge?

The prevailing opinion, which I agree with, is that it's a reference to Geordi's move in the 2nd season of TNG. I do like getting an origin story for it, which we were deprived of on TNG.

As harsh as I am on the show, I do think they are doing a lot of things well. This is one of them.

I'm curious if we'll get any more stuff with Yaphit being pissed about being passed up for the promotion.

I doubt it. The show is episodic, like TNG, which didn't tend to follow up well on things like that. It's like Voyager, which dropped the Maquis conflict quite early.

Oh, I forgot to mention that I was actually pleased that there wasn't a "Alara, can you open this jar of pickles" dropped into this episode. That was wearing mighty thing for me.

 

[Borgminister]

You lasted longer than I did with the other show.

The response of other people online to entertainment I like actually has no effect whatever on my enjoyment of it.

Sometimes all it takes is that last push, I guess.
It isn't the first show I gave up on, and won't be the last, I'm sure.
The wild card was what I outlined above in this case, though.
YMMV.

 

[Skipper]

By the way...
"We have a plant guy?"