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Who gave the most subtle acting performance in "Batman Forever" Jim Carrey or Tommy Lee Jones?

Jayson1

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I know it's a hard choice because they tend to go a wee bit bro ad in the movie at times but who showed the most nuance and skill at presented a real life human being in the characters they played. At what point did you watch them and say "I so recognize that in myself or people I know or have met?"

I will go with Jim Carrey. He totally nailed what it like to be a disrespected employee whose idea's are rejected by the boss and we can see the deep feelings of shame and disapointment transform into anger and resentment.

Jason
 
Surely the questio n should be who gave the most over-the-top performance. I would hardly call any of the performances subtle.
 
MacLeod said:
Surely the questio n should be who gave the most over-the-top performance. I would hardly call any of the performances subtle.
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The fun though is in finding something subtle in performances that are over-the-top. Well that and making fun of them as well.:)

Jason
 
Jim Carrey was amazing in this.

Subtle is not a word I would use to describe anything about Batman Forever, though.
 
Jim Carrey since he was closer to at least one version of the Riddler (the 60s version). Jones was just playing Two Face like the Joker.
 
There's nothing subtle about either villain, but there didn't need to be, not after Jack Nicholson's Joker, Danny DeVito's Penguin, Christopher Walken's Max Schreck, and Michelle Pfeiffer's Catwoman.

Also, Batman Forever is extremely underrated on the whole and makes a perfect 'capper' to a Trilogy of stories starting with Batman '89.
 
Neither was subtle but Carrey was more so and he definitely gave a better and more appropriate performance. He actually mixed pretty well the dark bitterness and the goofiness of the role while Jones was somehow both generic and annoying.
 
DigificWriter said:
Also, Batman Forever is extremely underrated on the whole and makes a perfect 'capper' to a Trilogy of stories starting with Batman '89.
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Batman Forever took the franchise in a direction that nobody wanted it to go. A direction that inevitably led to Batman & Robin and... the end of said franchise. On it's own merits, Forever is a fine campy superhero movie, but came out in a time when campy was synonymous with bad.
 
Batman Forever's "campy" nature has been grossly over-exaggerated over the years; tonally, the film is very much an evolution of where the franchise was under Burton, and has some genuinely dark moments.

Batman and Robin honestly didn't need to exist, and is best forgotten about, whereas Batman Forever, as noted, makes the perfect end to the narrative started in Batman '89 and continued into Batman Returns.
 
^ By the end of Batman Forever, Bruce has come to terms, psychologically, with his 'need' to be Batman as a 'coping mechanism' and instead chosen to do it for altruistic reasons. He's also at the start of a 'new road' with Chase and has accepted a partner in Dick.
 
I may be in the minority, but for me Carrey's best work in Forever is when he's trying desperately to be Bruce Wayne-esque at the big unveiling of his shitty new technology. I don't terribly mind the OTT Riddler, but I really hate the OTT Nygma stuff, like when he's doing whatever it is he's doing to Ed Begley jr.
 
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