Spoilers DC's Legends of Tomorrow - Season 3

Discussion in 'Science Fiction & Fantasy' started by dahj, May 18, 2017.

  1. Mr. Adventure

    Mr. Adventure Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2001
    Location:
    Mr. Adventure
    I thought it was kind of neat to see Stein as Firestorm. It was fun that Sara got to have a swashbuckling fight with Darhk as one might see in a 30s adventure film. Among the series, LoT seems to strive the most to just be entertaining.
     
  2. Romulan_spy

    Romulan_spy Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2000
    Location:
    Terre Haute, IN. USA
    Sarah Lance seems much more serious and professional now that she is team captain. Season 1 Sarah would have commented on how hot Helen was and probably found a way to kiss her. But this Sarah was focused, giving orders, and trying to keep the team on task.
     
    Dick Whitman likes this.
  3. Dick Whitman

    Dick Whitman Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2008
    The end fight scenes seemed a bit higher caliber than normal. The actual fight staging to the cross cutting of the different fights.

    Mick is great as a character but his heat gun is mostly useless and visually uninteresting in fights. Especially compared to Firestorm.
     
  4. Gryffindorian

    Gryffindorian Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2002
    Location:
    Gryffindorian
    So that was who Hedy LaMarr was ... For (straight) men to fall all over Helen of Troy, you would think she was emitting some kind of sex pheromone. And Themyscira on Earth-1. Nice!
     
  5. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    She was a pretty big star for a while, but these days she's better known for her inventions, which helped the Allies in WWII and were the forerunner of modern cellular networks. Also, her Hollywood contract was with MGM, not Warner Bros. -- though it's understandable why a Warner Bros. production would change that.

    The actress here, Celia Massingham, bore a decent resemblance to Lamarr, but she should've had a bit of an Austrian accent. Here's a clip of Lamarr from her American film debut, Algiers, which would've been made less than a year after this episode's time frame:

    http://www.tcm.com/mediaroom/video/354449/Algiers-Movie-Clip-I-Never-Break-A-Promise.html


    Or just had a really compelling presence and personality. I've read that Cleopatra probably wasn't all that great-looking, but was extraordinarily seductive nonetheless. Or, since supernatural forces are a real thing in the Arrowverse, maybe Helen actually did have some divine glamour to her.

    In any case, I do wonder why Sara wasn't as gaga over her as the men were. True, men are more prone to become violent idiots over a hot woman, but still.


    So now we have reason to believe both Batman and Wonder Woman might exist on Earth-1, though presumably Superman doesn't.
     
  6. Snaploud

    Snaploud Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2001
    Location:
    Rhode Island, USA
    We don't even know the status of Krypton in the Earth 1 universe. It may never have blown up, or it may not exist. Clark and Kara may have been sent to another planet closer to Krypton in technological development, or these Kryptonions may have listened to Jor-El and found a way to move the whole population before the planet blew up.
     
  7. dahj

    dahj Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2003
    He's off to Broadway to star in Hello, Dolly!

    Praise Zod, saviour of Krypton! :D
     
  8. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Well, yeah, that's why he's leaving, but I'm wondering if something is limiting his availability while he's still here, since he hasn't had a lot of screen time this season.

    The irony is, Garber is the top-billed cast member on the show, yet he's the one with the smallest role, other than Amy Pemberton.
     
  9. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Location:
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    So, I haven't been following the show this season, but thought the folks in here might be interested in something I came across on a Best of the Ed Sullivan Show...

    SugarShoppe1.jpg SugarShoppe2.jpg

    Victor Garber, 1969.

    If anyone who gets Decades wants to see it for themselves, they're running the episode again tonight at 11 p.m. EST.
     
    Greg Cox and Psion like this.
  10. Ovation

    Ovation Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 19, 2003
    Location:
    La Belle Province
    Broadway musicals require considerable rehearsal time—more so than most other forms of theatre. Perhaps that’s why he’s so little available.
     
    Greg Cox likes this.
  11. Mr. Adventure

    Mr. Adventure Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jun 9, 2001
    Location:
    Mr. Adventure
    They really need to incorporate that into an episode.
     
  12. dahj

    dahj Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2003
    The clothes are a must, if not everything else :D
     
  13. Reverend

    Reverend Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2002
    Location:
    UK
    I like to think at some point the Earth-1 version of Kara will show up and in the absence of Clark becomes Power Girl. I also rather like the idea that Earth-1's Superman landed pre-1939 like in the very first comics, making him a contemporary of Amaya. He'd still be alive and well in present day (if a little grey) but has long since put away the cape.

    Or perhaps in this universe Kal-El's ship was the one trapped in the phantom zone for a decade or two and didn't make it to Earth until much later than his Earth-38 counterpart. Another possibility is that both he and Kara are on Earth already, but keeping a low profile, just like Bruce Wayne.

    That's not irony, it just means he has a better agent than anyone else. ;)
     
    Last edited: Nov 17, 2017
  14. The Old Mixer

    The Old Mixer Mih ssim, mih ssim, nam, daed si Xim. Moderator

    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2002
    Location:
    The Old Mixer, Somewhere in Connecticut
    Note that he had the puffy sleeves going on before Firestorm was a gleam in Al Milgrom's eye....
     
  15. Gaith

    Gaith Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    May 11, 2008
    Location:
    Oregon
    Well, we know from that Brad Pitt documentary that the real Trojan War only lasted a week or two, but this Helen said it had lasted years... meaning that her story was the mythical one, which thus makes her a daughter of Zeus. So, I guess she got her blonde hair from her father. :p

    I was a bit confused as to why Darkh needed resurrecting, seeing as we last saw him returned to the 80s after his stint in the Legion of Doom. Only realized after this episode that his current body was evidently collected after Oliver killed him in Arrow S4.

    Oy. Age suits him!
     
  16. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Yeah, hence the plot point about the 2016 PalmerTech smart watch with Oliver's fingerprint on it.

    Also, Darhk at this point in his personal timeline is far more dangerous, because -- as we saw -- he now has the full-on magic powers that he accumulated in the decades between the '80s and Arrow season 4. The only previous time the Legends faced him with those powers was in the Doomworld reality.
     
  17. Jayson1

    Jayson1 Fleet Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2017
    I wonder Darhk will ever work with a past version of himself on the show since the show does do time travel. In fact I wonder if we will ever see a future Flash who once left a message for them team up on a episode or them encounter future versions of themselves. What will the Legend team look like in 20 years for example.

    Jason
     
  18. Commander Richard

    Commander Richard Yo! Man! Premium Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2015
    Location:
    The E
    Routh would make a good Jimmy Olsen.
     
  19. Christopher

    Christopher Writer Admiral

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2001
    Stein taking physicists out of history to consult on the Firestorm matrix was rather implausible. First off, how'd he assemble them without anyone noticing? Has he been sneaking out in the jumpship again? Second, why early physicists like Isaac Newton and Mme. Curie? Newton would be utterly useless in solving a problem pertaining to nuclear and quantum physics. He wouldn't have the basic conceptual foundations to understand the problem in the first place. He'd first have to accept that everything he thought he had proven about physics was wrong outside of a certain range of conditions, and Newton does not strike me as a guy who would react well to being told he was wrong. If anything, Stein should've at least consulted with people like Einstein, Heisenberg, Meitner, and Feynman, if not more modern folks like Hawking or Ed Witten. Heck, for that matter, wouldn't it be even better to consult with physicists from centuries in the future?

    Also, the whole thing was a bit too reminiscent of last week's "Council of Wells" gimmick from The Flash.

    As for the rest, it was okay. Grodd seemed more articulate than he's been in the past, making longer speeches, which is good. Amaya bonding with him and almost winning him over was a nice moment. And Mick's encounter with his father went to an interesting place -- it deepened Mick, let him be more than the growly comic relief.

    And I'm so glad that the characters have started to notice all the unlikely coincidences connecting the anachronisms to the Legends' families. That means it is an actual plot point that will have an explanation, rather than just sloppy writing.

    It looks like we're getting a Legion of Doom 2.0 here. Darhk pere and fille, Kuasa, and now Grodd, another gathering of established villains from other shows to battle the Legends.
     
  20. Snaploud

    Snaploud Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jul 5, 2001
    Location:
    Rhode Island, USA
    I just started watching this episode. Wouldn't it make more sense to travel back to before the anachronism killed those soldiers?