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The Spore Drive Technology. What Do You Think About It?

What science is being "extended" with
  • Alien-human hybrids
  • Telepathy, telekinesis
  • God like aliens
is a xenofungus made of exotic matter that exists multi-dimensionally really that extreme in Star Trek?

All of these things were being seriously looked at in the 1960s. Or popular science at the very least. Even instantaneous travel. The Philadelphia Experiment...various US and Russian programs looking at ESP....Area 51...Montauk....
Chariots of the Gods type stuff was everywhere in the mid to late twentieth century.
Now the line is blurred over how much of that stuff is tinfoil hat level bullshit, but at the time? That stuff was popular science at the time.
Discovery might as well be the USS Eldridge, to be fair.
 
I wonder if the spore drive network is gone be the end of the war? Maybe no use of spore drive and no Klingon cloaks?
 
It be funny if it is also a spore based cloaking device, and neutralizing the network stops both the Federation Spore Drives and the Klingon's cloaking devices.
 
I'm anticipating an explanation since the show isn't done yet yet :techman:

Also, we can't trust Burnham anyway, at least according to other threads.:vulcan:

Two that I can imagine is that everything gets buried for some reason, or it's some parallel universe or dream.

Or maybe they'll just reboot the whole franchise.
 
Two that I can imagine is that everything gets buried for some reason, or it's some parallel universe or dream.

Or maybe they'll just reboot the whole franchise.
Or Discovery gets sucked in to a timewarp...again

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Why does the Discovery 's saucer spin? It only spins when engaging the spore drive. Is it related, somehow? Was the Discovery built with the spore drive in mind or was that a later addition? Seems like the spinning saucer would have been a design feature of the ship and not an after market addition.
 
Why does the Discovery 's saucer spin? It only spins when engaging the spore drive. Is it related, somehow? Was the Discovery built with the spore drive in mind or was that a later addition? Seems like the spinning saucer would have been a design feature of the ship and not an after market addition.

The whole ship looks like it was arummage in the tool box job. I think it’s just to give it warp effect style transition, while not actually being the warp effect for other reasons.
 
Why does the Discovery 's saucer spin? It only spins when engaging the spore drive. Is it related, somehow? Was the Discovery built with the spore drive in mind or was that a later addition? Seems like the spinning saucer would have been a design feature of the ship and not an after market addition.
It was built around the spore technology, presumably before the war, but apparently not by Starfleet. Starfleet then commandeered the two scientists, the two spin drive ships, stuck them all together, and gave one to Lorca.

Otherwise, Starfleet picked up Stamets and his spore research buddy, told them "You work for us now." Then, built two spore drive ships, around these two guy's research, and had them completed in less than 6 months.

Choose your pain.
 
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It was built around the spore technology, presumably before the war, but apparently not by Starfleet. Starfleet than commandeered the two scientists, the two spin drive ships, stuck them all together, and gave one to Lorca.

Otherwise, Starfleet picked up Stamets and his spore research buddy, told them "You work for us now." Then, built two spore drive ships, around these two guy's research, and had them completed in less than 6 months.

Choose your pain.

I think, given Trek technology, that you could build an already designed ship in about 6 months.

But I have to point out a few things.
1) As far as we know, Starfleet is the organization that builds starships for the Federation (or at least the corps of engineers). There are the the occasional Vulcan ship (like the transport Sarek used in "Lethe"), occasional other civilian transports, or Mudd's father-in-law's ship, but we don't really see any "starship class" ships that don't look like they came out of the Starfleet assembly line. Additionally, that someone else would have built three ships (since the Crossfield itself is still out there somewhere) to Starfleet specs (because the Discovery and the Glenn are totally Starfleet designs) seems unlikely.
2) Just because the war began ~6 months before we saw the Discovery/Glenn first, doesn't mean they were only built in that timeframe. I don't remember any dialog that says they were only built since it started - Starfleet likely started to build the two ships to test the technology before the war, and fast tracked them to get them done pronto. Maybe they even simply converted one or both of the ships for spore drive testing purposes, because other than the spinning section of the primary hull, it isn't clear that there are any spore-drive-specific design elements.


Now for my question about the spore drive: how are the showrunners/writers going to make the sporedrive non-viable for the future?

Originally I had thought they were going to get the drive working just long enough to get a couple of missions completed, helping to win the war, but simultaneously realizing that the drive wasn't viable for anthing other than a one-time war winning need (and even then it would have to come at great cost, like a 90% chance of a failed jump).

Then I thought they would hinge it on needing the Tardigrade and only having the one, who would die or disappear. But now that Stamets can do it too with only a little genetic injection, that is not a limitation.

And now we have seen Discovery make at least 140 jumps, and until this last one there has been only one other accident (with the Glenn) and it was corrected. So there goes the "unreliable technology" option as well as the "somehow damages the crew or subspace" option.

Maybe it will be the genetic tampering that blocks it - but that would only make it a non-starter for the Federation with its "no eugenics" law, any other power should quickly be able to adopt it.

Maybe this "sideways" jump into this alternate universe is what makes the drive non-viable - I think that is the only remaining viable option. And even then, it again comes down to a "regulatory" limit, not a physical one. Starfleet can classify the information, but others know about it and it would only be a matter of time before another galactic power rediscovered the concept.

Can't wait to find out.

Anyone have thoughts on this?
 
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It says on Memory Alpha that the ship was built around Paul Stamets and some other guy's research after the start of the war. So, I guess I was wrong.
But 6 months seems to me to be an awfully short time to build 2 experimental ships like that, based on a theoretical scientists ideas.
They do mention in ep3 that Discovery is pristine new, and freshly painted.

It could be a(comparatively) really small ship though, around the size of the NX-01, considering the relatively small crew size.

What would have to happen for the spore drive disappear? The easiest answer is history is changed.

This doesn't seem to be an "omega particle" type of situation. Even if ethical concerns of tartigrades and genetically engineered engineers caused use of the drive to stop, Starfleet, et al would not stop research and testing.

Perhaps Starfleet intelligence made knowledge of the drive disappear, through temporal tampering, and kept it for themselves. That's why Sloan can just appear and disappear at random. He's got a phase-cloaked, spore-jumping blackbird.
 
Anyone have thoughts on this?
I'm sure there are plenty of theories. One that trys to explain this show is:
This ship and crew is from an alternate universe, that discovered spore drive and has a mycelial network, and has hairless Klingons along with funny looking looking D9 ships. Also in that universe Spock has a sister, who is a starfleet mutineer.
Another theory is: sometime during this shows run, Stammets will go back in time and never allow this spore drive tech to be created.
Yet another and the best one: Is to kick back and watch the show and see where this trek takes us.
 
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