Attacking the poster instead of addressing the arguments.
Typical Disney fanboy reaction.
News FOX selling out to Disney?
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Attacking the poster instead of addressing the arguments.
Typical Disney fanboy reaction.
*yawn*Attacking the poster instead of addressing the arguments.
Typical Disney fanboy reaction.
You really need to convince yourself of your arguments. Knock yourself out.
Shock and awe! FOX made a comedic film out of a comedic comic book character! Who knew that you could make a successful comic book movie and still be respectful to the source material? Certainly not Disney!
So double standard then, Deadpool can get away with comedic moments but no MCU can.
I had a similar thought myself. I think it's more interesting exploring the FF as an already-established, prestigious family of adventurers, but it would be hard to fold them into the MCU as new characters without having their powers be a new thing. So that could be a way to split the difference.
It doesn't seem unrealistic to me that two of the world's great geniuses would've gone to the same school. Some learning institutions have a reputation for being among the best at certain specialties, like MIT for engineering, so people pursuing degrees in related fields would tend to congregate at such colleges.
Remember, Dr Doom wasn't the King of Latveria when he and Reed first met. He didn't even know he was related to the old Latverian Royal Family until after that. He was just some kid of a Romani tribe from Europe on a Scholarship.
IIRC, he didn't bother becoming the King until after Reed and co became famous. It was because he wanted something to rival Reed with.
IIRC, he didn't bother becoming the King until after Reed and co became famous. It was because he wanted something to rival Reed with.
What?
Crisis on Infinite Earths was completely in line with the definition of the term "reboot" as applied in a fictional context, as it completely reconfigured DC's continuity and represented the company starting from scratch and building new stories and introducing versions of their characters whose histories were brand-new.
In trying to attack me for some reason, you just made yourself look foolish.
Although if you do want to bring up things from DC that aren't really reboots despite being marketed as such or considered by the public in general to be such, the "New 52"* and " Rebirth"** say 'Hi'.
* Yes, I know that the New 52 reset the histories for a lot of DC's characters, but it didn't do so universally, and therefore doesn't truly constitute a reboot
** And Rebirth is a direct continuation, by and large, of the New 52 continuity, with elements from the post-Crisis continuity being reintroduced as well
Disney acting like a corporate Evil Empire once again but this time with consequences...
All Disney Films Have Been Disqualified From Award Consideration After Barring Critics
All Disney Films Have Been Disqualified From Award Consideration After Barring Critics
^ I'm not entirely sure why, but I find this whole situation with regards to Disney 'feuding' with newspapers/other media outlets immensely hilarious.
I think it should be taken quite seriously, because it's a grave threat to freedom of the press if corporations feel they have the power or the right to control who gets to cover them and how. It's a great relief that Disney backed down under pressure, but the fact that their execs were willing to attempt such a ban in the first place is quite alarming and makes me wonder what other abuses of power they might be capable of.
What?
I have never read those other, later stories you mention. I have the collected Crisis On Infinite Earths right here on my shelf. It was an in-universe event which in the course of the story causes the multiple parallel Earths that previously made up DC continuity to be folded into one, erasing some characters and aspects of their histories and retaining others. It was indeed a reset of continuity, but one that was acknowledged and given explanation within the narrative. And the concluding panels show us that Psycho-Pirate has retained his memory of everything: "I'm the only one left who remembers the infinite Earths...I remember all that happened, and I'm not going to forget..." This is exactly like Spock Prime in ST09.
I'm not attacking you. I'm pointing out that you are incorrect in some of your assertions, which is only to be expected when some of your assertions are contradictory. Perhaps you are in need of a reboot? Maybe just a soft one? Be well, fellow traveler.
-MMoM
You're a bit behind in the news. Disney backed down, so they're eligible again for those awards.
True but that’s beside the point. The essence here is Disney’s attitude and actions. Not if their eligible or not for some awards. It’s good though that Disney didn’t succeed in their blackmail and was forced to back down.
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Fair enough. It also would have been nice if they bothered to apologize.
What do they have to apologize for? The L.A. Times ran a hatchet job article on them including tons of misinformation. Why is there no recourse for people and corporations when the media are being bullies?
They didn't bother to respond to any if the specific points in the article. Instead, they decided to use their massive conglomerate of interests to punish a bunch of innocent bystanders. Disney is the only bully I see in this story.
I'm pretty sure Disney think billions of dollars > industry awards.
They are correct.
They are correct.
What?
I have never read those other, later stories you mention. I have the collected Crisis On Infinite Earths right here on my shelf. It was an in-universe event which in the course of the story causes the multiple parallel Earths that previously made up DC continuity to be folded into one, erasing some characters and aspects of their histories and retaining others. It was indeed a reset of continuity, but one that was acknowledged and given explanation within the narrative. And the concluding panels show us that Psycho-Pirate has retained his memory of everything: "I'm the only one left who remembers the infinite Earths...I remember all that happened, and I'm not going to forget..." This is exactly like Spock Prime in ST09.
I'm not attacking you. I'm pointing out that you are incorrect in some of your assertions, which is only to be expected when some of your assertions are contradictory. Perhaps you are in need of a reboot? Maybe just a soft one? Be well, fellow traveler.
-MMoM
Noted.
I guess DC has never completely rebooted its full continuity, then, despite claiming otherwise.
They have completely rebooted individual characters or groups over the years, though.
In the past, you have asserted repeatedly (unless I've misunderstood you, which is possible) that current colloquial usage of the term "reboot," as extending to at least some resets/breaks in continuity and/or style other than those which are total and go entirely unacknowledged in-story, i.e. those that are "partial" or "soft," is "wrong" because its definition should be restricted to how it was "first" used in context of fiction.
You have just admitted, by your own claim (which I have been unable to independently verify) that it was originally associated in that context with DC's Crisis, that the narrow definition you have insisted upon actually has no such basis to begin with. Even your own usage above ("never completely rebooted") now seems to reflect an awareness that the term at least sometimes requires qualifiers, in contrast to previous claims that something is either a reboot or not, period, and there is "no such thing" as a reboot which is not complete.
In all sincerity, with no patronizing tone or attitude intended—and all apologies if this be taken in such a way despite my intent—I congratulate you on this progress.
I'm not sure, but I suspect it started as a marketing thing, and that the shift began in response to the opposite perception. "Remake" sounded to people like they were getting the same thing again; "reboot" sounded to them like they were getting something new. In practice, however, neither was always the case. And the perception now may well be more in line with what you suggest as a result. Just a thought.
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As I said, I don't think they're alternate terms for the same thing. There are still things called remakes, like Murder on the Orient Express, RoboCop, Total Recall, etc. The term hasn't been replaced by "reboot." Things that would've been called remakes in the past are still called remakes. But reboots are something different that we see more today than we used to -- reinventions of ongoing series rather than single stories.
Although I guess there can be examples of the latter that are called remakes. I have the impression that the Berlanti/CW Tomorrow People series from a few seasons ago was generally described as a remake rather than a reboot, and I find more Google hits for the former than the latter -- perhaps because it was being made by different people for a different country, rather than being the same studio starting their property back over with a different continuity. But then, movie remakes are often by the same studio that owned the original concept.
Okay, then, maybe you could say that "reboot" is a term that's emerged for a specific category of remake, and thus it's replaced some uses of the term, but by no means all of them. In any case, there's enough overlap and gray areas between these labels that it's best not to get too legalistic about which term "should" be used in a given instance.