Obviously, the focus here seems to be on the X-Men and FF, but does this mean we could put the 20th Century Fox fanfare back in front of Star Wars?
News FOX selling out to Disney?
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Screw Disney.
Also I was hoping the X-men film rights would never return back to Marvel. They are better without their heavy hitters. I doubt they would have pushed the Avengers characters and developed them so well if they had access to Spider-man and Wolverine from the very start.
Wolverine would have been in every freaking MCU movie mugging the camera.
Also I was hoping the X-men film rights would never return back to Marvel. They are better without their heavy hitters. I doubt they would have pushed the Avengers characters and developed them so well if they had access to Spider-man and Wolverine from the very start.
Wolverine would have been in every freaking MCU movie mugging the camera.
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It's not a done deal In fact there is no deal as of yet.
Hmmm. Seems what Disney might real want is FOX's TV library for their streaming service. X-Men is just gravy. 
https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/6/16614502/disney-fox-marvel-netflix-hulu-streaming
https://www.polygon.com/2017/11/6/16614502/disney-fox-marvel-netflix-hulu-streaming
Disney certainly has the money for it, and if Fox is really interested in selling the only other serious contenders would be tech companies.
I'd like to see this happen, wrap up the current series of X-films and launch a new X-Men and Fantastic Four following a multi-dimensional climax of Phase 5 or whatever they're on at that point.
Add in the distribution rights of Star Wars that would allow a profitable despecialized release of the OT at last, plus all the other franchises that Fox owns, and the day they signed a deal would be a very good day to be a geek.
I'd like to see this happen, wrap up the current series of X-films and launch a new X-Men and Fantastic Four following a multi-dimensional climax of Phase 5 or whatever they're on at that point.
Add in the distribution rights of Star Wars that would allow a profitable despecialized release of the OT at last, plus all the other franchises that Fox owns, and the day they signed a deal would be a very good day to be a geek.
I'm indifferent about the X-Men coming back. I think it's allowed a greater diversity of X-Men properties to be seen on the big screen. But I do want the Fantastic Four to come back to Marvel Studios.
The Marvel stuff aside, I'm glad to hear that the deal has stalled. Disney is already way too huge a media conglomerate, way too monopolistic. Sure, the freedom to cross over different IPs is fun for the audience, but it's bad for one company to own everything.
Am I the only one worried that this would end some of the more edgy stuff on FX like "American Horror Story", "Atlanta",Baskets" etc? Fox had rep, ever since it was created for being a little more bold and edgy than the stuff you would get on CBS,ABC,and NBC. They also take lots more risks than those networks, even though they get blasted also for cancelling them to soon but I will still take one season of "Firefly" over zero seasons of "Firefly."
Wouldn't Disney be the end of all of that? Disney is all about safe, family based entertainment and they do a good job at that but I do like having diversity in having networks that do other stuff as well.
Jason
Wouldn't Disney be the end of all of that? Disney is all about safe, family based entertainment and they do a good job at that but I do like having diversity in having networks that do other stuff as well.
Jason
True.
Might be a shot at Marvel just recovering the X-Men and FF rights anyway, or more likely (as they would likely be a major selling point for the whole package) that the new owners might do a Sony/Spidey type deal with Marvel.
I don't think that's a concern. While I'm not crazy about the idea of Disney assimilating the entire media universe into one corporate Borg Collective, I do think the way they've gone about it is not as homogenizing as you'd expect. I mean, the whole reason they acquired properties like Marvel and Star Wars was because they wanted to broaden their appeal to new audiences (specifically young male audiences that their other properties didn't appeal to as much). They wanted to own entertainment properties that were not the same as what they already produced, so that they could enlarge the number of people paying for stuff that they owned and thereby get richer. So they didn't want to change Marvel or Star Wars to be more Disney-like -- they wanted them to keep the same style and approach, to keep appealing to the same demographics as before, but with the profits now going into the pockets of the Disney corporate fat cats instead of some other corporate fat cats. If they'd forced everything to conform to their existing house style, it would've defeated the purpose of buying it in the first place.
This is something that Disney as a corporation has been trying to do for decades. In the late '70s and early '80s, they tried diversifying into more adult, PG-rated films like The Black Hole, TRON, and Something Wicked This Way Comes. But the perception of the Disney name as family-friendly worked against that, so they created a new division called Touchstone to distribute their more adult-oriented fare, the stuff that Disney owned but that didn't fit the image of the name "Disney." They've been trying for a long time to make more profit by appealing to a wider range of audiences. These days, instead of creating new branches of their own company to do it, they just buy other companies that have established audiences and let them keep doing what they were already doing.
What, it's okay for WB to own all the DC characters (though it hardly does anything with them anyways) but Disney can't own all of Marvels'?
Yes.
...Why?
I just remembered that Fox doesn't actually own the rights to the Fantastic Four, Constantin Film does. Constantin just makes a deal with Fox to help them produce and distribute the movies when they decide to make them (i.e. when their rights to the characters are about to expire). So, if this deal ever comes to fruition, Disney would get the X-Men but they'd still have to deal with Constantin if they want the Fantastic Four.
Why not?
As I already said, if it were just about Marvel, then I wouldn't have a problem with it. My problem is with Disney's evident quest to monopolize the entire entertainment landscape -- to own everything, not just Marvel but Star Wars and the Muppets and Aliens and Predator and Avatar and whatever else they can get their rapacious four-fingered gloves on. Monopolies are bad. Monopolies are to business what fascism is to politics -- a centralization of power for the benefit of the few at the expense of the many. No one entity is entitled to control everything. Disney is too huge already. And it's not the only corporation that is. It's a symptom of the larger societal problem that's concentrated more and more wealth and power in the hands of fewer and fewer billionaires, which is bad for everyone else.
Because they keep getting the FF wrong, and I'd like to see other X-Men characters get their dues that the movies keep failing at.
Please, please, PLEASE, no Disney X-Men films! Despite what Marvel fanboys claim, FOX has done a great job creating the X-Universe and has given us quite a lot of great comic book movies. Which is more than I can say for Disney’s Marvel films.
MCU redefined how to do CBMs, the FoX-Men movies are still stuck in the mindset that it's the year 2000 and refuse to move on.
The only innovation they have is Deadpool, and that was more an independent movie made by Ryan Reynolds than a Studio Film.