I think LFIM is full of crap and some of the people posting there are realizing that too.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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I think LFIM is full of crap and some of the people posting there are realizing that too.
Okay, this is ridiculous. If anyone sees LFIM and/or his cronies posting crap like this I would suggest you immediately save a copy of it to the Internet Archive. I just saved this one there (link), so that even if he deletes it them they'll hang around his neck like Tiberian bats, and he can't claim they've been photoshopped or any other rubbish.
How to:
They go right here (see photos). I volunteer there.
P.S. This doesn't necessarily work on Facebook pages.
How to:
- Grab the URL in question (if on Twitter, best to click on the tweet itself to bring it up front, otherwise sometimes you get an URL that wants to go through a login)
- Go here: https://archive.org/web/
- Paste the URL into the Save Page Now field and click the SAVE PAGE button
They go right here (see photos). I volunteer there.
P.S. This doesn't necessarily work on Facebook pages.
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While the posted screenshots don’t look great. I do have to question why, if it was so bad, the “block” button was never used once in two years. Unless Alec’s broken it with his overuse...
Alec is once again proving his own worst enemy. This public name and shame approach has soured a lot of his remaining fan base, with responses across his various postings being negative. And even if there is any kind of merit to the complaint, he’s got a long, proud history of throwing BS accusations at people (specifically Carlos) that immediately cast doubt on these claims. If there is anything legit to what he’s claimed he should’ve left it with police/lawyers but instead he’s tried to turn it to his own advantage and damaged his credibility once again.
I also note at some point his wording changed from just harassment to sexual harassment, which cynically seems a clear attempt to link this with the Weinstein stuff going on which just makes it look opportunist, if not downright despicable latching on to the real suffering that women have gone through.
Alec is once again proving his own worst enemy. This public name and shame approach has soured a lot of his remaining fan base, with responses across his various postings being negative. And even if there is any kind of merit to the complaint, he’s got a long, proud history of throwing BS accusations at people (specifically Carlos) that immediately cast doubt on these claims. If there is anything legit to what he’s claimed he should’ve left it with police/lawyers but instead he’s tried to turn it to his own advantage and damaged his credibility once again.
I also note at some point his wording changed from just harassment to sexual harassment, which cynically seems a clear attempt to link this with the Weinstein stuff going on which just makes it look opportunist, if not downright despicable latching on to the real suffering that women have gone through.
Here's why he's gone public with this chazerai (that's Yiddish for a stronger word than poop):
- Newsjack onto the Harvey Weinstein allegations
- Try to force Seth McFarlane's hand, as SF has rather vocally said abuse victims need to be safe
- Perpetuate the victim narrative and try to garner sympathy (backfired, big time)
- Demonize and embarrass a critic who he sees as vulnerable
- Drag his girlfriend even deeper into the steaming mess, perhaps to make it harder for her to end their relationship if she ever wants to in the future (e. g. by creating an us vs. them narrative, he might be able to cement her commitment without, you know, actually proposing or the like)
- Appeal to lurkers and the uber-faithful, who will lay out bucks to help out poor attacked lil ole AP
- Cover up the recent debacle with the author-author site and hope everyone's moved on from that issue to the issue du jour (and the author-author site was linked to Axa and initially had a contribute button on its page. They claim to be unrelated yet also claim they have the okay from lawyers involved in the case. Cognitive dissonance, anyone?)
- He knows he has no case, so there's nothing to protect. Hence he's trying to get a critic tried and convicted in the court of public opinion.
Alec Peters, as I'm sure we all know, is a lawyer by training. If the author-author woman is a true believer of his, she'll believe anything he says.
DING! DING!DING! I think we have a winner. I think he has stuff like this written up and ready to go anytime he needs to change the narrative. This is all about (again) trying to control the conversation by misdirecting to Gabe instead of defending his own actions.
It appears that LFIM deleted (or removed from public view) the FB thread he started about Mr. Koerner and seems like a staged diversion from the axanar merchandise being sold at the Author, Author! website.
I think he didn't like how the comments were going and expected everybody to agree with him and go grab pitchforks to go after Gabe. Since he couldn't remove that many posts that were critical of him he just delted the whole post.
My favorite comment was from a guy who was a lawyer warning Alec that his post was a very, very bad idea.
I agree. LFIM's fiasco blew up in his face. When it became evident the bandwagon effect he was trying to instigate was being questioned with well reasoned rebuttals, he gave up while in the process alienating more people disgusted with his behavior.
I was amused at the reaction from people who were self-professed Axanar fans. LFIM outdid himself with this one.
And then a lot of them said his post sounded like something from high school
NONE of the fan-based production groups make money off the fans from their films. The films are free to view by the public. They are funded by donations from individuals, businesses and fans of all types and those who work on the films do so of their own free will and time. Back in the '70's, before fan-based films, before Paramount Trek films, fans were producing all kinds of written material, artistic material, visual material, audio material and Paramount cracked down on NONE of it, even tho a large percentage of the material was Kirk/Spock gay porn. Paramount cracked down on fan-based materials only when something became financially successful, such as my 'Klingon Covert Operations Manual' around 1990. I also produced the first Klingon text-font in 1984 and if I had charged for it, I've no doubt Paramount would have stopped that as well, since over 350,000 copies have been downloaded last I checked (10 years ago). It was ONLY with the Axanar film production that Paramount began cracking down on films, simply because they were using real actors, real directors, producers, construction crew, film crew, etc..... The TRUE fan-based Trek films have been left completely alone other than via Paramount's 'rules' dictate, which has devastated any ability by anyone to produce a film. A 15-minute short is all they are allowed and no actors or anyone having anything to do with the film industry is allowed to participate. You can't make a true film of 15 minutes other than what they call short-shorts that you might see at Canne or other film festivals that are used to draw interest to the person, people or businesses that produced them. Paramount has thus created a monopoly, akin to the old Bell Telephone company and their rules should be voided. I will never go see a Paramount Trek film again. The last one was utter trash.
YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! What about the well over a million and a half dollars that was completely mismanaged by Axanar and was used as a personal slush fund by the principle (proven in court documents)? Not to mention that they didn't produce the movie. Did it ever occur to you that CBS/Paramount cracked down on Axanar because they were stealing money from fans and not producing anything? CBS / Paramount were defending the fan-base from a scam artist which is why no other fan-films were targeted. Do you know that Star Trek Continues produced 11 full length episodes for well under half of what Axanar raised? It still kills me that people defend this scam artist and blame CBS: PATHETIC!!
Dude, the fact that they OWN the intellectual property means they have every legal and ethical right to create "a monopoly". And if that was truly what they craved, they would have stamped out EVERY fan-film and fan-fic on the internet.
As someone who was worried about being curb-stomped, I very much appreciate the leeway CBS/Paramount is allowing fan productions in general and audio productions in particular. The Potemkin Project has made it abundantly clear that the 15 minute limit is something that can be worked with.
Wow. So 62 of the 65 films we've produced over the past 7 years are not "true films?" Why has no one sent me a memo about this?
Oh, this rubbish again.
- Involving pros who worked on the shows is sorta anathema to the concept of a fan film
- Shorts are a perfectly legitimate form of filmmaking, and not merely a calling card
- There are lots of amazing shorts subjects, many of them far better than so many fanfilms which are padded like a santa suit to try to ape episode length
I still can't believe anyone can manage to spend tens of thousands of dollars on restaurant meals. But then I suppose when it's someone else's money he has no problem with ordering all the most expensive things on the menu.I'll just leave this here ...
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