Discovery Size Argument™ thread
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It's not accurate. There's an uncropped version where you can see the bridge module, which would be miniscule at this scale.I don't know what the source is for this image (it looks official) but this is from the background image of IMDb. It should help in determining the size and deck layout of the ship if accurate:
Are they?
Isn't the problem with the round nacelles being older the age of the Shenzhou? Whilst the age of it isn't actually mentioned, my understanding is that it's likely older than the Enterprise. Georgiou mentions it being old when discussing the "lateral vector transporters". We know the Enterprise doesn't have those things... so is likely newer than Shenzhou... unless it had them replaced.
I think we might need to wait until if... or when a Connie shows up in the series to see what they've done with it.
At we sure the Discovery is newer than the Constitution class? If so, why is the Disco's registry number so much lower?
Wouldn't it make more sense that the Disco is older, but has had a recent refit (inc spore drive) which makes it "the most advanced ship in the fleet"?
Wouldn't it make more sense that the Disco is older, but has had a recent refit (inc spore drive) which makes it "the most advanced ship in the fleet"?
Registry numbers mean squat. They're not very consistant.
Remember the constellation's number was 1017, and then the Grissom in TSFS had a 3 digit number.
Fuller is a fan of Halloween allegedly. Hence the 1031.
He was a guest judge on the latest episode of Halloween Wars on the Food Network, so I'd bet that's safely confirmed.
I think he meant Fuller being a fan of Halloween is allegedly the reason for 1031. I think that's about 90% confirmed because we heard it paraphrased from an outlet that actually interviewed him, although I don't think the exact quote is recorded anywhere yet.
Except that Klingons aren't supposed to care about what happens to the bodies of their fallen? (Yeah, I know - these are special Klingons.
)I don't know if it's the online *source*, but if you go to Discovery's IMDB page, it's the special decor ("page dressing"? I think I just made that up, so not sure that's a thing, but it's what it is) for the show, like they do with certain new movies and shows.
Just like the mashed potatoes, man. It means ALIENS.
He could have respected the fact they're filming in Canada and made the registry NCC-3110. That would solve the misunderstanding.
Not really, as that would "suggest" that Discovery post dates Excelsior (in development c 2280s) and Stargazer (uncertain, but described as an 'overworked, underpowered vessel, always on the verge of flying apart at the seams' c 2330s, so probably old).
Volumetrically, at 700 Discovery isn't a whole lot larger than the TOS Connie. I'd guess 20 to 30% at most. It's probably in a similar "weight class" as the original would have been, despite the larger mass and longer profile.
The thing is, Burnham is saying to Tilly that applying to a transfer to a Constitution class would be a step in the right direction towards the Command Path, which implies that the Connie would be a much larger and/or more prestigious assignment than a ship like Discovery. For whatever reason, the Enterprise has a much higher profile than the Discovery, so that MIGHT imply a larger and more powerful vessel.
Makes me wonder if the producers might end up saying "fuck it" and using the Kelvinverse version of the Connie anyway. That would be HIGHLY amusing.
The thing is, Burnham is saying to Tilly that applying to a transfer to a Constitution class would be a step in the right direction towards the Command Path, which implies that the Connie would be a much larger and/or more prestigious assignment than a ship like Discovery. For whatever reason, the Enterprise has a much higher profile than the Discovery, so that MIGHT imply a larger and more powerful vessel.
Makes me wonder if the producers might end up saying "fuck it" and using the Kelvinverse version of the Connie anyway. That would be HIGHLY amusing.
Only if the registry system is chronological. Which, at this point, it clearly isn't.
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If that happens I want the producers to tell me in advance so I can be ready for the fallout.
I will admire mightily their brass balls if they do, I cant see them doubling the size of the E in this series, then again they made a royal mess of the Klingon ships so who knows.
I think its more likely due to the types of missions the Connie classes are involved in, the Discovery is a science ship and not really meant for front line warfare, it doesn't really have the right crew compliment for it either.
The Discovery looks at least as big as the Enterprise-A without including the nacelles at all.
Whether that's by design due to the Spore drive who knows.
First of all, I was joking. Second of all, NCC-1031 was built after NCC-1701, so as others have pointed out, registry numbering is not chronological.
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The two Crossfield class ships could have been named after ships from an earlier class and kept their original registries, similar to how the Enterprise is still always called 1701 even though the registry is into 5 digits now.
Generally the ships we see are registered in chronological order but it was never an absolute rule and we have seen exceptions over the years.
1031 could just be due to Halloween but its a bit random if so or it could allude to Section 31, the marks on Lorcas back are certainly suspicious as well.
Would be the perfect way to hide new ships with old registry numbers.
Generally the ships we see are registered in chronological order but it was never an absolute rule and we have seen exceptions over the years.
1031 could just be due to Halloween but its a bit random if so or it could allude to Section 31, the marks on Lorcas back are certainly suspicious as well.
Would be the perfect way to hide new ships with old registry numbers.
Or it could’ve been refitted, TMP-style, perhaps to add some sort of accommodation for a radical new drive system that wouldn't even have been on the drawing board when it was built. I imagine if a multiple-murder sentenced to life in prison arrived on the "almost totally new Enterprise" at the beginning of the movie era, they would’ve also said the ship seemed like it was factory-fresh, not knowing it was 25 years old.
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As @Kemaiku says above they are fresh builds but the ship names and registries could be from older ships that are gone now, either as a homage to them or to keep the new Crossfield class ships under the radar.
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