Moving into troll territory, I see. Like I said, I treat good writing solemnly. Discovery's writing is an amateur hour costing $8 million per episode.
Right now we have two very uneven Star Trek shows on the air; one in name and one in spirit.
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Moving into troll territory, I see. Like I said, I treat good writing solemnly. Discovery's writing is an amateur hour costing $8 million per episode.
Right now we have two very uneven Star Trek shows on the air; one in name and one in spirit.
That whole scene with people testing Bortus's digestive abilities, if it happened in real life, could be read as racist. Turning a person's racial differences into somebody else's entertainment.
From an entertainment standpoint, it's another incidence of Orville basing the entire characterization of their alien characters on the ways they are different from humans. Race builidng rather than character building.
But in real life, Bortus could totally sue the Orville for hostile work environment for asking him to eat glass for their entertainment.
From an entertainment standpoint, it's another incidence of Orville basing the entire characterization of their alien characters on the ways they are different from humans. Race builidng rather than character building.
But in real life, Bortus could totally sue the Orville for hostile work environment for asking him to eat glass for their entertainment.
Like I've said, Star Trek has been split into two halves, neither of which can survive without the other.
Discovery needs Orville's fun and likability, and Orville needs Discovery's gravity, originality and relevance.
Men in Black?
It has to be humor you can take solemnly.
I don't mind sexism for the sake of humour. I mind the casual sexism of not having enough women in the show and making the ones you do show in gender stereotypical roles. Having a couple of token high profile characters does not hit the mark in modern sci-fi.
I'm not sure I'm seeing casual sexism. Grayson and Alara are the two most interesting characters on the show.
Alara is also the strongest character in the show, doubt she'll be damsel in distress any time soon barring them being on a planet with high enough gravity it neutralizes her strength.
If it neutralized her, then pretty much everyone is out of the game except possibly Isaac.
Yes, but will they be Kermit the Forg Depends?
Not all of these pop culture references are about now. The Seinfeld episode is nearly 25 years old, The Sound of Music and Rudolph more than 50. Kermit has been around for more than 60.
I think what we're missing is any hint of pop culture between 2017 and the 25th century. Maybe there was a long period without entertainment.
Bah humbug!
Which speaks to the point about mass media not really ever going away - people think of Kermit as "now" - however fallen from peak popularity - and not part of the past.
On a related note, it seems almost all the complaints about this show all seem to be centred around the same thing: It's a Seth MacFarlane being a Seth MacFarlane show. Guess what, we all know what Seth MacFarlane means, he's had three animated sitcoms (one of which premiered eighteen years ago) that have had all kinds of vulgar and inappropriate jokes and are loaded with random and nonsensical pop culture references, with a preference for material from the 1980s. When MacFarlane hosted the Oscars he sang a song about tits and made jokes on stage about rape culture in Hollywood.
All this is well known, so if you're going to sit down and watch a Seth MacFarlane show, expect it to be a Seth MacFarlane show. Don't complain afterwards that it's a Seth MacFarlane show when you knew what you were tuning in for.
They need their own Rebo and Zooty.
Just a theory, but FOX.com has re-labled the episodes videos as S1 -- season one, so this indicates to me a second season announcement is probably not too far off. I wouldn't be surprised if they ordered more episodes for season one.