Discovery, OTOH, is simply a pretend sci fi show...and not a good one.
Discovery and "The Orville" Comparisons
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Discovery, OTOH, is simply a pretend sci fi show...and not a good one.
its plenty good and plenty sci fi. perfect? no. but its exploring fictional technologies moral conundrums and contrary characters.
orville is great comedy.
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Really, it doesn't, but your mileage will vary. It does just fine with sci-fi concepts.
Same with DSC. Just in a different way.
So defensive.
Fact: every episode of the Orville, except for the pilot, has been a complete, 100% ripoff of a Star Trek episode. Saying you like it better is being safe.
Not exactly science fiction? Are you kidding? Do you even read, brah?
I've never seen anyone write SO MANY posts about a series they don't find good. Seriously what's the deal? Wouldn't you rather get involved in stuff you DO like?
The Orville... the worst TV has to offer. It's so shockingly bad.
I came up with a game. Every time The Orville rips off a Star Trek episode, just add "with dick jokes" to the Trek episode title, and that's what The Orville is.
For example:
Episode 6 of The Orville was "The Enterprise Incident with dick jokes".
Episode 5 of The Orville was "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky with dick jokes"
It actually works.
For example:
Episode 6 of The Orville was "The Enterprise Incident with dick jokes".
Episode 5 of The Orville was "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky with dick jokes"
It actually works.
Wouldn't go THAT far, but come on: some here are suggesting Orville is on par with Shakespearean masterpieces ffs while DSC is TV's equivalent of Battlefield Earth or something... in the end, DSC outclasses Orville on every level, and deep down, I think everybody knows this.
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They are spending probably three times the money The Orville is (which makes the writing on Discovery that much more disappointing), so it should outclass it at every turn. But there is one thing The Orville clearly does better than Discovery, and that's being "Star Trek".
If the "The Orville" is better than one iteration of Trek, it's probably "Voyager" simply by default for not having Neelix.
Actually, I take that back. It's better than the two Abrams films by a large degree.
Who says anything like that?
The Orville is good, entertaining and fun - it's a skiffy adventure show that, much to my initial surprise, really works.
Discovery, also to my surprise and disappointment, does not.
Kind of hard not to when you're taking every story and every beat from Star Trek. Even the lighting and the cinematography.
I don't dislike The Orville but I don't respect it. Discovery has its flaws but I'd recommend it over The Orville in a heartbeat simply because Discovery has the potential for greatness (and has reached it a couple of times IMO) whereas The Orville can never transcend its "Star Trek but with hack jokes" concept.
I think its done it at least twice. "About a Girl" and "Krill" were both much better than what you describe.
That's pretty much hope based in nostalgia at this point.
Yes, at some point in the past Star Trek was pretty great.
Discovery looks a lot like Star Trek, sometimes, and says "Star Trek" on the label. And boy have they spent money on it!
No it does not. It is better at emulating a certain era in ST, but DSC comes closer in tone to In The Pale Moonlight or WOK -two of Trek's most respected works no less. What 'Star Trek' is supposed to be is so subjective.
Where have we entered this freaky alternate reality where a series that shamelessly copy-pastes '90's Trek (as I recall VOY was heavily critisized for it) is praised, and a series that seeks boundaries and tries something different is ridiculed and put down....?
Fans don't like things that are different.
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