Yeah... The Klingons in this show are a mess.
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"
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So if it was up to you clowns, the list of great Captains wouldn't include Archer or Pike or April but instead would have people we have never heard before (yeah that would have made the episode better[/sarcasm]). And the prisoner would have been someone other than Mudd. Thank god you are not on the writing staff.
btw, I am glad Lorca lost his eye device. It was hard to look at the scenes of him using that on his eye.
There were vibes of Clockwork Orange when Lorca was being tortured.
btw, I am glad Lorca lost his eye device. It was hard to look at the scenes of him using that on his eye.
There were vibes of Clockwork Orange when Lorca was being tortured.
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Finally the torturing of the Tardigrade has stopped! It is bad though that they used it for weeks and planned to enslave a lot of others of them. And then they only started to look for an alternative after it became clear that its healths was deteriorating and it would become useless. Why not start looking at once after the first jump when it was already more than clear that the Tardigrade was in huge pain? Or better not start using it at all? What assholes really. At least Stamets redeemed himself a little at the end, but only a little. His motivation wasn't completely selfless.
And it is confirmed Voq is Ash Tyler. L'Rell was there and no "Voq" around, while at the same time we have Tyler who allegedly survived 7 months in a Klingon prison which according to Lorca just doesn't happen. That he was the sex slave of L'Rell is obviously hogwash. She was stuck on that big Klingon ship for 6 months and wasn't on that prison ship in that time. L'Rell just played along with his ruse to make his explanation more believable. And Lorca's and Tyler's escape of the ship was also way too easy. They wanted them to escape.
L'Rell has by the way plot armor. It is understandable that Voq/Tyler didn't kill her, but what about Lorca? He disintegrated every Klingon he saw, but left her alive? Why? That was too convenient writers! I just eyerolled at that scene.
And I guess next episode we will see the mirror universe? The last scene seems to indicate that. Stamets seems to be lacking as a spore navigator.
And it is confirmed Voq is Ash Tyler. L'Rell was there and no "Voq" around, while at the same time we have Tyler who allegedly survived 7 months in a Klingon prison which according to Lorca just doesn't happen. That he was the sex slave of L'Rell is obviously hogwash. She was stuck on that big Klingon ship for 6 months and wasn't on that prison ship in that time. L'Rell just played along with his ruse to make his explanation more believable. And Lorca's and Tyler's escape of the ship was also way too easy. They wanted them to escape.
L'Rell has by the way plot armor. It is understandable that Voq/Tyler didn't kill her, but what about Lorca? He disintegrated every Klingon he saw, but left her alive? Why? That was too convenient writers! I just eyerolled at that scene.
And I guess next episode we will see the mirror universe? The last scene seems to indicate that. Stamets seems to be lacking as a spore navigator.
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You missed the bit where the brushes tell you your teeth are clean and your breath smells minty fresh
You know? I never really thought about the episodes getting closer to Trek history in look and feel with the departure of Fuller. I actually think that is quite plausible.
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I wouldn't say a mess as such I just don't see the advantage to keeping Starfleets ships recognisable and then completely changing the Klingons ships.
I just had a horrible thought, what if there is a simple reason why we haven't seen a recognisable D7 yet.
What if the Romulans will be using the design instead, even though its supposed to be the Romulans who got the design from the Klingons.
I really hope not.
I wouldn't say it's "confirmed", per-se, just a REALLY good chance the two are one in the same based on circumstantial evidence seen on-screen.
Although I haven't seen this episode's AfterTrek yet, so I don't know if maybe someone spilled the beans about it in an official manner?
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yeah like i dont know....black people?Nah, you just need to meet more people with curly hair. I've seen people with bigger hair than Tilly compress it into a bun the size the of baseball.
Yeah, my null hypothesis now is Fuller was fired because he was making a shirty product.
Eh... Star Trek III plus AbramVerse Trek already popped that cherry with the Klingon "Bird of Prey" and "Warbirds" years ago. The generous back-and-forth in nomenclature between those two fleets' ships during that time has always been a bit troublesome for me. Yeah, they shared tech back in TOS and all, but the Klingons have never revered birds in the same way that Romulans did. If anything, they should be called "Targs of Prey". Fuck birds. This new show makes it worse by showing us fightercraft that look like peacocks! FFS! I really do like this show but some of the design choices, particularly with the Klingons just baffle me, TBH.
I agree, with the budget they have they could of done better. Those weren't birds of prey they were more like birds of game.
I once had the thought that, since up until now, "Robert April" wasn't technically canon, someone would have the good sense to change the name to April Roberts.
That might seem a bit silly at first, but not so much once you realize Starfleets most prominent ship line goes five deep (six if you include Spock) before it gets to a woman.
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Laughable assertion. I have never been able to stomach my way through a single TOS episode.
It is really not our fault that you have a terrible taste.
Unless the writer goofed, that's an absolute giveaway. Tyler claims to have been her prisoner for all that time, when she's only been off the sarcophagus ship for a few weeks. You could argue that he'd been held prisoner there, but as we know they probably would have eaten him. Now as for the scene where he beats up L'Rell, remember that Lorca is right around the corner. It could easily have been an act to help sell his role.
Mind you, most viewers WON'T pick up on that.
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Even the ship’s computer is an asshole!
Even the ship’s computer is an asshole!
Or has certain algorithms written by SkyNet.
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