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Hard for me to check her out properly when her hair fills the known universe.Don't know. Am I a bad person for liking it?
Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"
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I really do love the ship design, doesn't hurt that they include sweeping shots in every episode to really show all the details and scope of the ship.
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I don't know. I kind of have different demands for a Star Trek series compared to a horror-zombie show. I'm perfectly fine with the level of sex'n'violence in, say, Game of Thrones. Because it's that type of show. But in Star Trek? It's too much.
If you don't get it, then me explaining it to you probably is not going to help. We're operating under incompatible systems of morality.
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Yeah its a shame about the Klingon ships, the new ones look more like the Negh'Var than anything else, the whole avian design ethos is gone it seems.There ain't gonna' be much "discovering" going on in this season of "Discovery", ain't it?
I think we now got a clear look of what a "regular" episode of DIS will look like. A clear 3 act structure, a small plot of the week (last week: save the colony, this week: save the Captain), with a plot that's a bit lacking compared to previous Trek series, but much more room for character interactions, and set-ups and resolutions for the long-term arc.
That being said: I'm not very content with this series at this moment. It's overly dark, violent. And it seems, we only ever going to see Fedration officers or klingons in dark Federation or klingon hallways. No new planets. No strange alien species. Not even to make contact with to help in the war effort. All of this feels awfully secluded from a rich, diverse universe.
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Finally, regarding the "Ash Tyler is secretly Voq in disguise"-theory: I really hope it isn't true. First of all: Do we need ANOTHER explanation why the klingons in TOS looked different? Especially since we already have a perfectly working one, and this new klingons not looking like any other klingons anyway? There is also the other problem of having your only middle-eastern character be the traiter. The moooozleeem is not to be trusted. Welcome to Trump Trek!
- THIS was a D7? Are they fucking kidding us? The original klingon D7 design is such an iconic shape, it appears in ALL the Trek series, from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY to even ENT. It's such a great design, it was used in a 60s television series, as well as in a 1979 big-budget movie (TMP) up until to a 2009 blockbuster (ST09). If you discount the classic saucer UFO, this is maybe the most well-known alien starship design there is in entertainment. And what did they do? Replace it with some generic organic delta shape. Yay. This could have easily been a wraith ship from Stargate, or literally any other science fiction show ever. There is nothing distinctive, less iconic, in everything regarding the new klingons. I guess the behind-the-scenes-drama was actually a lot bigger than what we even suspected...
- Nice space station tho'!
- The first episode not entirely centered around Burnham, but more of an ensemble play, in this series
- Am I the only one that think the Intros come very late? Like, almost after 10 minutes? Instead of after a short opening teaser?
- A vulcan Admiral! Cpt. April and Archer! Genetic experiments on humans are forbidden (because of Khaaaaan). All around many nice nods to the fans.
- Nice to see a little bit of morality and ethic discussions about monsters back in Trek.
- This is so fucking cool! Worked surprisingly well.
- MUDD. He was great! Ham'ed up to eleven!!!
- So Lorca off-ed his entire crew to spare them from torture? What an asshole.
- Also, Lorca leaving Mudd to the klingons? After you know what they do to prisoners? Double asshole.
- "Wanna' be right, or wanna' fix this?" I really like grumpy Stamets
- I think there is WAY too much violence in this series. Too much gore in the last two episodes. Now, we see a redshirt impaled in close-up. A prisoner tortured to death. A woman with half her face melting screaming for her life and no one helping her. This shit is way too dark, and I'm not talking about the illumination, although there's plenty of issues there, too
- I repeat myself: The subspace-funghi-galaxy-network is at least as bad science as Spock's Brain or warp 10-salamanders. But we didn't need to endure those for an entire season
- So. In the final moments of the episode. We have a Godzilla-sized tardigrade...GO TO WARP? On it's own? What?
Yep, that's what I was getting at!
Which Andorian is this?
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I don't think so myself, they wouldn't let him go so easily if they knew what experiments he was up to.
They were just looking for a target and found one, that's assuming Ash Tyler is Voq which is looking pretty likely.
Personally I think Tilly is a Romulan spy.
Unless I've missed some news, I think they're referring to that photo of what appeared to be Andorian antenna which was released a few months back.
The only question that remains is did Tom Paris have some work done on him by EMH..Klingon physiology is known to possess several redundant systems.
CANON SATISFIED!
I wasn't even sure that was her, didn't look right, and I had just binged the series before watchng. I was distracted because the rubbery armor looked so off and the shoulder points looked like they were bending every which way.
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Probably. Apart from moustache twirling and political speeches, evil is an overused and often misunderstood term.
The Doctor (can't remember his name) mentioned that the CMO wanted his help performing an Andorian tonsillectomy.
you remember deep space nine? war, torture, battles, death, etc.
To my mind the crucial Lorca reveal wasn't that he destroyed his own ship and killed the whole crew to avoid being captured. It was that he refused to get his eyes fixed in order to remind him of what he did. He's making himself suffer because he feels guilty. It shows that while he's made what we might consider to be some very dark choices, he has a conscience and is not a sociopath. Probably not a villain either, for that matter, although he could still end up an antagonist by the end of the season.
What I don't understand is why he would leave his ship before self-destructing it. However, he could have had mission-critical intelligence which he was ordered to return to Starfleet. Sure, he could have left it in the care of a First Officer or something, but perhaps his hands were tied. If this is the case, he literally did nothing dishonorable as a captain.
What I don't understand is why he would leave his ship before self-destructing it. However, he could have had mission-critical intelligence which he was ordered to return to Starfleet. Sure, he could have left it in the care of a First Officer or something, but perhaps his hands were tied. If this is the case, he literally did nothing dishonorable as a captain.
Oh I get that, it just didn’t flow well imo, a quick scene with him boarding the shuttle maybe or a quick conversation with the shuttle pilot maybe...
Well, in my book leaving people to a fate you believe to be 'worse than death' merely out of spite is clearly evil. It doesn't matter if the person left behind was evil too; it is very easy to show compassion to those who deserve it, a true test of character is to show it to those who don't.
Ah! The gore of deep space nine! I remember the blood! The mutilated corpses in close-up! The people being beaten to death, their brains on the floor! Oh, what's that? That was Battlestar Galactica, and not Star Trek? Nevermind.
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