Spoilers Star Trek: Discovery 1x05 - "Choose Your Pain"

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Discovery' started by Commander Richard, Oct 15, 2017.

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Rate the episode...

  1. 10 - Absolutely fantastic!

    18.1%
  2. 9

    28.9%
  3. 8

    21.7%
  4. 7

    13.3%
  5. 6

    3.9%
  6. 5

    6.3%
  7. 4

    3.0%
  8. 3

    2.4%
  9. 2

    0.3%
  10. 1 - I sling mudd at it!

    2.1%
  1. Gonzo

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    Hard for me to check her out properly when her hair fills the known universe.
     
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  2. Gonzo

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    I really do love the ship design, doesn't hurt that they include sweeping shots in every episode to really show all the details and scope of the ship.
     
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  3. Rahul

    Rahul Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    I don't know. I kind of have different demands for a Star Trek series compared to a horror-zombie show. I'm perfectly fine with the level of sex'n'violence in, say, Game of Thrones. Because it's that type of show. But in Star Trek? It's too much.
     
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  4. Longinus

    Longinus Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    If you don't get it, then me explaining it to you probably is not going to help. We're operating under incompatible systems of morality.
     
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  5. Gonzo

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    Yeah its a shame about the Klingon ships, the new ones look more like the Negh'Var than anything else, the whole avian design ethos is gone it seems.
     
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  6. 137th Gebirg

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    Klingon physiology is known to possess several redundant systems.

    CANON SATISFIED! :D
     
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  7. Mr Awe

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    Yep, that's what I was getting at! ;)
     
  8. Smoked Salmon

    Smoked Salmon Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Which Andorian is this?
     
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  9. Gonzo

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    I don't think so myself, they wouldn't let him go so easily if they knew what experiments he was up to.

    They were just looking for a target and found one, that's assuming Ash Tyler is Voq which is looking pretty likely.

    Personally I think Tilly is a Romulan spy. :D
     
  10. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    Unless I've missed some news, I think they're referring to that photo of what appeared to be Andorian antenna which was released a few months back.
     
  11. XCV330

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    The only question that remains is did Tom Paris have some work done on him by EMH..
     
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  12. Mr. Adventure

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    I wasn't even sure that was her, didn't look right, and I had just binged the series before watchng. I was distracted because the rubbery armor looked so off and the shoulder points looked like they were bending every which way.
     
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  13. XCV330

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    Probably. Apart from moustache twirling and political speeches, evil is an overused and often misunderstood term.
     
  14. SpocksOddSocks

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    The Doctor (can't remember his name) mentioned that the CMO wanted his help performing an Andorian tonsillectomy.
     
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  15. rhllot

    rhllot Captain Captain

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    you remember deep space nine? war, torture, battles, death, etc.
     
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  16. cultcross

    cultcross Postponed for the snooker Moderator

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    Or TNG where they allowed whole civilisations to be destroyed because of #primedirective
     
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  17. eschaton

    eschaton Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    To my mind the crucial Lorca reveal wasn't that he destroyed his own ship and killed the whole crew to avoid being captured. It was that he refused to get his eyes fixed in order to remind him of what he did. He's making himself suffer because he feels guilty. It shows that while he's made what we might consider to be some very dark choices, he has a conscience and is not a sociopath. Probably not a villain either, for that matter, although he could still end up an antagonist by the end of the season.

    What I don't understand is why he would leave his ship before self-destructing it. However, he could have had mission-critical intelligence which he was ordered to return to Starfleet. Sure, he could have left it in the care of a First Officer or something, but perhaps his hands were tied. If this is the case, he literally did nothing dishonorable as a captain.
     
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  18. Kirk the Jerk

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    Oh I get that, it just didn’t flow well imo, a quick scene with him boarding the shuttle maybe or a quick conversation with the shuttle pilot maybe...
     
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  19. Longinus

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    Well, in my book leaving people to a fate you believe to be 'worse than death' merely out of spite is clearly evil. It doesn't matter if the person left behind was evil too; it is very easy to show compassion to those who deserve it, a true test of character is to show it to those who don't.
     
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  20. Rahul

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    Ah! The gore of deep space nine! I remember the blood! The mutilated corpses in close-up! The people being beaten to death, their brains on the floor! Oh, what's that? That was Battlestar Galactica, and not Star Trek? Nevermind.
     
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