When Did The Klingons Acquire Cloaking Tech? 2268?

[Kane_Steel]

According to the official Star Trek page, the Klingons only had cloaking tech by 2268.

http://www.startrek.com/database_article/cloaking-device-klingon

This is to line up with Star Trek TOS and Kor's statements in his DS9 episode.

http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Cloaking_device

Was there are temporary alliance between Romulans and Klingons?

When do you think Klingons acquired cloaking technology?

 

[Mirror Mirror]

You're point? The Klingons do not have Cloak In DSC, One Klingon had it on two ships. Which the other Klingons found amazing and did not believe he had them. Where did he get them, we do not know. Sorry man, you are fishing and this is not a Canon Violation

 

[Nerys Myk]

Currently it's sometime before 2256.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

Currently it's sometime before 2256.

Does not mean the empire has access to it. They seemed kinda amazed by it really.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Does not mean the empire has access to it. They seemed kinda amazed by it really.

True

 

[Mirror Mirror]

True

It was likely the point of contact between the two races or tech acquired elsewhere. Its not like only one race has the tech. But with his death, so goes that foot in the door

 

[Nerys Myk]

Does not mean the empire has access to it. They seemed kinda amazed by it really.

And conversely, the Enterprise crew in TEI, don't seem phased by a Klingon ship with a cloaking device.

 

[Mirror Mirror]

And conversely, the Enterprise crew in TEI, don't seem phased by a Klingon ship with a cloaking device.

Its not unknown tech, earth ran into it in the 2150's. This guys is looking for massive canon violations, but this si not one of them. This is one group getting a hold of the tech, but that does not mean the Klingons can make it as they can after the Romulan deal

 

[INACTIVEUSS Einstein]

The Romulans having the cloak in ENT was the all time worst canon violation in Star Trek for me.

It contradicted a major plot point in Balance of Terror, one of Star Trek's best episodes, and it wasn't even really necessary as there are dozens ways ships can appear dramatically - such as just appearing from warp.

But it looks like the cat is well and truly out of the bag in terms of cloaking now - anyone can have it. The pity of it is, that cloak isn't even used that well anymore - from being a brilliant excuse for tense submarine warfare in space, it's grown into a less and less pragmatic thing.

I'm enjoying DSC - it would have been just as good without cloaking, but whatever, it's done anyway, and we can probably expect it in any era of Trek from now on.

 

[F. King Daniel]

They've changed a lot of things in DSC. Klingons were developing cloaks earlier than TOS in novels and comics for decades, though.

And they were decloaking during Kelvin Kirk's Kobayashi Maru test too.

 

[Philip Guyott]

Future Guy gave it to them

 

[Timo]

That forgettable TOS episode was the biggest violator of established canon - as USS Einstein says, ships approaching so fast or by such unknown means that they are suddenly on top of our heroes, "unseen until it's too late", is well established back in "Charlie X" already. So neither Kirk nor Spock is entitled to showing surprise at Romulan invisibility, let alone claiming that invisibility is a theoretical possibility only.

That Klingons would not believe in cloaks pre-"Binary" is thankfully never indicated. ENT shows them witnessing invisibility, just like any space traveler sooner or later has to. They show definite interest in it, and in holoprojection tech. They no doubt struggle to obtain the tech. And ultimately, they succeed - but not by 2256 yet, as their holograms still aren't up to the TAS/TNG "holodeck" levels, and there's no imperial cloaking program underway yet.

I guess individual Klingons could have acquired cloaks on several occasions in the centuries preceding DSC, but being so divided, would squander them in quests of personal glory. Romulans, supposedly being more methodical and totalitarian (despite being introduced in TOS as a culture of backstabbers), might hold on to this as such commonplace if a bit high-end galactic tech better and reverse-engineer and refine it to their primitive purposes. Humans, being newcomers, would not yet have had the time to secure cloaks from any source. And Vulcans wouldn't be telling.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Ronald Held]

Seems hard to believe some Romulan cloaks found its way to the black market. Could those xenophobic Klingons buy one from any Romulan?

 

[Timo]

Why pay? Kirk stole one - so it can't be too hard!

But Romulans are more likely to be buyers than sellers. Just a century later, cloaks are everywhere. For all we know, they always were, and just went unseen for certain pretty obvious reasons.

Timo Saloniemi