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THE ORVILLE - S1, E4: "IF THE STARS SHOULD APPEAR"...

That episode was stronger than the first few. It's been getting a little better about the boundaries between serious and silly, though it'd be nice if they could come up with a few plots that are a little less derivative.

They also could have stood to focus a little more on the emotional aftermath of the torture, seems like a missed opportunity to have a real emotional moment. The most frustrating thing about the show, they create these moments that should be more emotional then only explore them in the language of sitcom tropes.

If Orville could learn to have humor *and* take real genuine emotional moments seriously with gravity it could turn into a really good show.

Hopefully as it grows into its own and they start writing and produce based on viewer response (they probably have a handful of episodes already in the can and, therefore, cannot change much around between now and their next production cycle) and make the necessary adjustments to make some parts of the tone and humor work better or eliminate it all together.

One the funniest, and warmest, moments was Seth and Mockingbird laughing about their previous pot experiences when in the alien zoo. It really seemed like a real, human, couple sharing old stories moment.

So, we'll see. Maybe the show will grow.

It's just so strange to me on how much this show borrows from Star Trek. Obviously not to any legally actionable level but, come on, with the look of the ship and interior, the set-up of the show, it's obvious what they're doing. But it's nice that they're not exactly doing it as a total rip-off but more of a "Well, we can't play in Trek's yard so we'll make our own! With dick jokes! And pot!"
 
That was my favorite episode of the show so far. Yeah, it might have been a bit derivative, but it was just really well done IMO. I completely forgot about Liam Neeson being on, so it shocked me when he popped up as Dural (Deral?).
 
I think that the pop culture references are intended to be jarring, as they were unintentionally jarring on DS9 (60's Vegas), and Voyager (Tom's fascination with 20th century stuff), etc. Why don't we have a character who likes 22nd century crap? (I liked that kind of thing, though, on "Enterprise". Seemed to fit better there, maybe because it's not as far into the future.)
 
It's just so strange to me on how much this show borrows from Star Trek. Obviously not to any legally actionable level

I feel like this is the only reason the show maintains the pretense of being a comedy. Well that and so MacFarlane could get the network to green light it.
 
That's okay, because Star Trek borrowed so much from other shows. Everything in Hollywood is borrowed from some previous work. It's nothing new.
 
I loved the episode as a whole, despite the clunky humor falling flat again (although I did laugh at the Jehovah's Witness joke, and a couple of others). The bioship was beautiful, both outside and in, and I liked seeing the Orville crew on an old-school landing party mission. Trouble with the locals, somebody gets captured, the rest of the party must rescue them. Everybody conveniently speaks English. There were definitely a couple of brutal moments that helped keep everything grounded. When Alara got shot, I figured it would turn out that the uniforms are bullet proof or that her species is bullet proof, but, man, she really got shot. That was painful to watch. As was Kelly getting interrogated. If this show could just drop the open-mike-night race-, gender-, and sex-based one liners, it could turn out to be a nice replacement for Star Trek.

And I didn't even realize that that was Liam Neeson. Nice little casting coup there. They should probably advertise these things to bring in more viewers.

One thing I noticed in this one that I didn't notice before is that these people talk about god an awful lot for a supposedly god-free future society.

Also, I thought it was a nice touch that they used the same quote that inspired Asimov's "Nightfall" in the episode (and for the title). They sneak in a lot of allusions to classic SF, not just Trek (naming therobot Isaac being an obvious one).

Oh, the joke that I really loved was Mercer counting on his fingers to figure out 1300 hours. I always have to take a second to do the math. :rommie:
 
Oh, the joke that I really loved was Mercer counting on his fingers to figure out 1300 hours. I always have to take a second to do the math.

It takes you a second or two to subtract 12?

Everybody conveniently speaks English.

I suspect, like in Trek, there's some kind of "magical" Universal Translator in play here.
 
The nostalgia factor with Orville is very strong, which to me is part of its charm and part of the reason it is so enjoyable.
 
I just watched the new episode last night. I have to say that I really enjoyed it. The sci do part of finding this giant thing in space and figuring out what it was and who made it was great. The "twist" of the people inside not even knowing they were om a ship was good too.

Of course being a trekkie I can't help but think about the ending and how that would have been handled in the Trek universe.

Side note...im at a convention right now and Bob Picardo was on stage. He said he was under a gag order and couldn't say which show, but that he was going to be appearing on a sci fi show on "one one the four networks....and It's not Discovery" he also ended his panel by saying thank you for nobody asking him a single question about discovery
 
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It's never sold itself as being a comedy.

It's light, fun skiffy with jokes.
I definitely felt like the early trailers I saw made it out to be a comedy.

Re: Alara being shot. Did anyone else think it was weird to run that medical device over the wounds without clearing the fabric out of the way? That bullet extractor seems a bit crude as well.
 
As the show improves it becomes much easier to appreciate.

I'd like to see the episode that explains how they fashioned their society on a popular TV show from the mid 1960's. Given the proper technology and a thriving galaxy who's to say we wouldn't do the same?

As for the anachronistic dialogue, it's really not that out of place these days. Deadwood did it, Game of Thrones is doing it and Spartacus practically turned it into Shakespeare.

Some people are calling this show Star Trek with the serial number filed off. That's okay, it still feels more honest than a reboot and less dirty than doling out a new series like a sleazy drug dealer in the park, giving you the first fix for free before trying to sell you access to a subscription where no man has subscribed before.

Ironically, with the right amount of twisted logic, this may be the more original show. It definitely feels fresher. And more importantly it makes me feel for the first time in almost two decades like I just watched a new episode of Trek. And if all of that isn't good enough, it's free.

Thanks Seth.
 
I love the pop culture references because it gives this show a fun Farscape vibe. That show references pop culture all the time and it was funny. Of course it was the reactions of the other characters in Moya that made it funny but it was one of the show’s best qualities.
 
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