News Seth MacFarlane’s The Orville
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Speaking of bartenders I wonder if they'll ever have Isaac tend the bar. There's a Love Boat joke out there waiting for that somewhere.
I hope so, because it's an interesting Sci-Fi premise. I've actually given it some thought and I've come up with a premise that works. Given that Moclans lay eggs and the adult female that we saw had breasts, we can assume that they were always a species of egg-laying mammals, like the platypus. Then at some point in their prehistory, a benign and viable mutation for hermaphroditism appeared and spread throughout the population. Simply due to the mechanics of reproduction (or maybe because the trait was sex linked), they'd have a situation where male-female unions could result in offspring, male-male unions could result in offspring, but female-female unions could not. After many generations, by the time of their recorded history, female births had dwindled to the point where they were considered a deviation (and were probably dealt with more harshly than a sex-change operation-- they probably consider the sex change a very civilized alternative).
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Yeah, it's a very individual thing. Red Dwarf is funny, but it never grabbed me. I've seen enough to know the characters.
Yeah, it's a very individual thing. Red Dwarf is funny, but it never grabbed me. I've seen enough to know the characters.
Ratings:
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/thursday-final-ratings-sept-21-2017/
Only 4 million viewers. CBS was way better with reruns. If the ratings go further down, I am afraid 13 episodes it will be for the Orville and the sets go right to the dumpsters at Fox studios in a couple of weeks.
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/daily-ratings/thursday-final-ratings-sept-21-2017/
Only 4 million viewers. CBS was way better with reruns. If the ratings go further down, I am afraid 13 episodes it will be for the Orville and the sets go right to the dumpsters at Fox studios in a couple of weeks.
They moved it.
A million twits would have been confused with that.
A million twits would have been confused with that.
There's more to it than the ratings anymore. I imagine that this is a show that a lot of people are watching via streaming/download. I watched the first episode on FOX, then have watched the next two episodes commercial free on Hulu.
There will come a time when those numbers are more important than ratings. Networks are dying.
“Let them die!”
If you have cable, it should be in the On Demand section. Online, you can watch it on Fox's website. If you have a Roku or Apple TV box, you can use the Fox Now app to stream it.
They should have made a Settlers of Catan joke:
Mercer: I'll trade you sheep for wood.
That's Seth McFarland's type of humor.
Mercer: I'll trade you sheep for wood.
That's Seth McFarland's type of humor.
If they do a knock-off of Conundrum it might work.
He might make fun of the gu'ald's over the top behavior, but he certainly wouldn't whine about his own emotional issues.
For episode 3, I like that they're making the effort to comment on something socially relevant, though it's no less hamfisted than when TNG did it.
I wish they'd start mixing in some future pop culture with all their pop culture references just for believability and immersion.
But nobody would really get it. It is a tricky thing when doing something set in the future. Probably why we know next to nothing about pop culture in Star Trek.
I have been enjoying the show so far.
As a lifelong Trek fan, I'm not supposed to, apparently.
As a lifelong Trek fan, I'm not supposed to, apparently.
You not allowed to turn away from the Great Bird's sacred texts!
Thanks. I just got app for my phone and watched part of the first episode.
Spoiler apologies for all below, but all the beans I mention have already been spilled.
I haven't had the time to say as much about this episode as I would like, but I did like it lots. As many have pointed out, this was not about transgender issues - at least not only about them - but is about a whole lot more, including the intersection of the rights of the individual, parents, society, and the state.
As for Rudolph- One of Bortus' most endearing qualities is his appreciation for and wide-eyed wonder at human (and presumably other alien) culture. Combined with his lack of understanding of human jokes, this makes him not necessarily capable of telling pop culture from high art. Rudolph makes the perfect catalyst for breaking through his "this is the way it is because this is the way it always was" attitude.
The sad ending was just right, and rang truer than "The Outcast".
All being said, this episode doesn't rise to the level of Voyager's "Threshold", but it's still pretty good.
I haven't had the time to say as much about this episode as I would like, but I did like it lots. As many have pointed out, this was not about transgender issues - at least not only about them - but is about a whole lot more, including the intersection of the rights of the individual, parents, society, and the state.
As for Rudolph- One of Bortus' most endearing qualities is his appreciation for and wide-eyed wonder at human (and presumably other alien) culture. Combined with his lack of understanding of human jokes, this makes him not necessarily capable of telling pop culture from high art. Rudolph makes the perfect catalyst for breaking through his "this is the way it is because this is the way it always was" attitude.
The sad ending was just right, and rang truer than "The Outcast".
All being said, this episode doesn't rise to the level of Voyager's "Threshold", but it's still pretty good.
The bar seems to be at the back, and Orville's decks have letters, I believe. Perhaps the bar is called F-Rearward?
A very good breakdown that hamonizes with a lot of my interpretation of things, but goes much further. However, remember a standard sci-fi trope is that ALL females have breasts, whether mamillian or not. Does anyone remember if the naked Bortus did or did not have nipples?
Yeah, but in Star Trek you couldn't name drop The Muppets and assume all the humans all knew what you were talking about. They always threw in a few names the viewers would not understand along with the one or two they were supposed to understand. People who did know all about historical pop culture are people who were known to be history enthusiasts, such as Tom Paris. Or they knew some segments of historical literature and not others. It was far more believable than "Everybody instantly understands every single 20th century reference", and every time Orville does that it throws me right out of the universe.
The Orville is like a Star Trek cover band. Last week they covered The Outcast, I wonder what song they'll cover next.
They did a heck of a lot better job with it than TNG did.