Bridge Tour Promo

[Vger23]

I am usually pretty forgiving about just about anything in Trek...except for the production design aesthetics...particularly on the Federation ships. I'm pretty binary there...it either excites me and inspires me...or it falls totally flat and I just don't care.

That said, this bridge is frigging phenomenal.

I always judge it by one simple factor: If I feel an overwhelming need to be there, touching and looking at everything in great detail...that means it's awesome. It's how I felt about the TOS bridge, the TOS movie bridges...and now the bridge of the Discovery!

Very, very cool stuff. Well done indeed.

 

[Tuskin38]

Yeah it is kind of weird that they still have the old Discovery design on the consoles, when we've seen the new design on consoles in trailers.

Maybe this video was created right after the bridge was finished construction and before the final graphics were done?

 

[Kor]

That bridge set looks decades more advanced then the TNG bridge or even the later Enterprise-E bridge.

No it doesn't.

Kor

 

[MvRojo]

After having just watched WoK in theaters, the area of blue blinking lights at the rear of the Discovery bridge reminds me of the area of yellow blinking lights on the Enterprise.

 

[fireproof78]

"I want them all to blink in sequence."

 

[David cgc]

Yeah it is kind of weird that they still have the old Discovery design on the consoles, when we've seen the new design on consoles in trailers.

Maybe this video was created right after the bridge was finished construction and before the final graphics were done?

I just remembered, around the time Enterprise premiered, there was a publicity/behind the scenes shot of the helm console, and the screen embedded in it had a schematic of the TMP Enterprise. Completely inexplicable.

And, of course, there was Beyond, where half the screens on the Enterprise showed the revised design and the other half showed the version from the first two movies.

 

[MvRojo]

And, of course, there was Beyond, where half the screens on the Enterprise showed the revised design and the other half showed the version from the first two movies.

Haha, that's funny. I never noticed.

 

[MarsWeeps]

I just remembered, around the time Enterprise premiered, there was a publicity/behind the scenes shot of the helm console, and the screen embedded in it had a schematic of the TMP Enterprise. Completely inexplicable.

And, of course, there was Beyond, where half the screens on the Enterprise showed the revised design and the other half showed the version from the first two movies.

Also in ST:III when they detected an "intruder" in Spock's sealed quarters, the graphic at Chekov's security station showed the outline of TOS Enterprise instead of TMP.

 

[kirk55555]

Sigh...this argument again. I don't know how to address this because I can't really get my head around how to explain homage within a fictional TV series vs. watching actual history. ST is not actual history. It's made-up. Stuff happens that's not meant to be taken 100% literally. Apparently you're totally comfortable with the idea that for about 20 years in the mid-to-late 23rd century, technology and aesthetics are suddenly going to take a giant leap backward and look like a tacky 60's set with tech that isn't capable of stuff it's already capable of in real life, as long as "canon" is preserved. Forget about willing suspension of disbelief, everything must preserve the illusion that Star Trek is real.

I can't be that kind of viewer. I really don't understand the mindset that "canon" (which really has nothing to do with visuals anyway; never has) overrides everything. Canon is not a tiny box in which to trap creativity. It's just a guide for the events of this universe for the writers to use.

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with the stuff on the show actually looking like the stuff on the show. So it looked a bit goofy, so what? You can't go retconning stuff because you think it looks weird. In canon they had, what, 90 years between Enterprise and TOS (or 80 years between ENT and The Cage, I guess) for the tech to go from Enterprise to TOS, which is fine. STD is screwing up the continuity so I won't count that, and when you drop that the design elements evolve at least somewhat well from ENT to TOS to TNG/VOY/DS9.

The movies then do a good job transitioning from TOS to more TNGish style bridges and other tech. I have not, for one second, considered the TOS style to not fit with everything else in Trek. Since three of the later Trek series share the same philosophy (and no its not "homage", its sticking to the continuity of what the damn ship/tech looked like), I'd say I've got a fairly solid position. That position being that the TOS stuff looked exactly like what we saw on TV, although I'm enough of a modern guy to got with TOS-Remastered for exterior stuff.

Also, none of this addressed the fact that the Discovery bridge looks more advanced then the TNG bridge, much less the TOS bridge. The reboot movies had an excuse, this doesn't. Well, except that STD has terrible producers/showrunner/set designers and none of them give a crap about Trek and are just designing their own shitty Sci Fi show with vaguely Trek-ish stuff added presumably to keep the network happy. Outside of the exterior Federation ship design, it all looks either way too advanced or not Trekish.

 

[mr.peany]

Also, none of this addressed the fact that the Discovery bridge looks more advanced then the TNG bridge, much less the TOS bridge. The reboot movies had an excuse, this doesn't. Well, except that STD has terrible producers/showrunner/set designers and none of them give a crap about Trek and are just designing their own shitty Sci Fi show with vaguely Trek-ish stuff added presumably to keep the network happy. Outside of the exterior Federation ship design, it all looks either way too advanced or not Trekish.

I'm all for expressing an opinion, but I think this paragraph is simply being written to inflame a situation that simply isn't warranted. To say they don't give a crap and making their own "shitty" show is frankly rude and inappropriate.

 

[Pure Antiproton]

I'll say it a million different ways. I'm so happy to get new Star Trek on screen and to hell with the look being "too this or too that". This looks fantastic! Really excited to go on this adventure with this crew. Bring it on.

 

[JoeP]

I'm all for expressing an opinion, but I think this paragraph is simply being written to inflame a situation that simply isn't warranted. To say they don't give a crap and making their own "shitty" show is frankly rude and inappropriate.

And more importantly just flat out wrong.

 

[Nebusj]

Sorry, he said the people working on it were ``Trekkers'' and that's my deal-breaker. Trekkie or go home.

Also why can't I set the DVR to record this already?

 

[Mage]

That is just a stunning bridge really! I love it.

 

[Roald]

Well, except that STD has terrible producers/showrunner/set designers and none of them give a crap about Trek and are just designing their own shitty Sci Fi show with vaguely Trek-ish stuff added presumably to keep the network happy.

The level of disrespect here is off the charts..... Everyone involved have displayed a tremendous love and care for Trek, yet you claim they 'don't give a crap about Trek'.. I really don't know why I even bother responding, but I have to stand up for those that work so hard to give us this new series.

 

[F. King Daniel]

After having just watched WoK in theaters, the area of blue blinking lights at the rear of the Discovery bridge reminds me of the area of yellow blinking lights on the Enterprise.

It reminds me of the "computer brain" of the USS Vengeance, blinking behind Admiral Marcus.

IIRC, those honeycomb blinkies on the WoK bridge were supposed to indicate computer memory access - like the blinking light on most PC's.

 

[CorporalClegg]

Less blue and lighter, if anyone is curious:

That looks 1000 times better.

 

[Campe]

I don't understand why anyone would have a problem with the stuff on the show actually looking like the stuff on the show. So it looked a bit goofy, so what? You can't go retconning stuff because you think it looks weird. In canon they had, what, 90 years between Enterprise and TOS (or 80 years between ENT and The Cage, I guess) for the tech to go from Enterprise to TOS, which is fine. STD is screwing up the continuity so I won't count that, and when you drop that the design elements evolve at least somewhat well from ENT to TOS to TNG/VOY/DS9.

The movies then do a good job transitioning from TOS to more TNGish style bridges and other tech. I have not, for one second, considered the TOS style to not fit with everything else in Trek. Since three of the later Trek series share the same philosophy (and no its not "homage", its sticking to the continuity of what the damn ship/tech looked like), I'd say I've got a fairly solid position. That position being that the TOS stuff looked exactly like what we saw on TV, although I'm enough of a modern guy to got with TOS-Remastered for exterior stuff.

Also, none of this addressed the fact that the Discovery bridge looks more advanced then the TNG bridge, much less the TOS bridge. The reboot movies had an excuse, this doesn't. Well, except that STD has terrible producers/showrunner/set designers and none of them give a crap about Trek and are just designing their own shitty Sci Fi show with vaguely Trek-ish stuff added presumably to keep the network happy. Outside of the exterior Federation ship design, it all looks either way too advanced or not Trekish.

We are all entitled to our opinions. Mine is that you are being too rigid to things of the past. Mine is also that this bridge, while maybe doesn't fit exactly to what we see 10 years before a set made in 1964, has a Trek feel and is a great extrapolation for what a futuristic bridge 230 or so years from today in 2017 might look like. The great thing is: we can express them both. Because at the end of the day? It's just our opinions.

 

[Kor]

... the fact that the Discovery bridge looks more advanced then the TNG bridge ...

You keep repeating this notion ad nauseum as if it's a given, but you do not provide any explanation or support whatsoever for it.

I find that the Discovery bridge looks a lot more utilitarian and industrial in comparison to the advanced, comfortable nature of the TNG era. Discovery is a workhorse. The Ent-D is a flying luxury hotel.

Kor

 

[F. King Daniel]

I was about to cite the holographic glass on Discovery, but IIRC one of the AU Enterprise's from "Parallels" had it behind the tactical station.

I still think the show is continuity-breakingly advanced in its application of forcefields, though. That's Nemesis-level stuff.