Don't necessarily disagree, but can you give an example?
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I think most of TNG's attempts at action come off poorly. Not all...but many. Same with comedy...most of the comedy comes off as stilted and staged rather than organic.
TNG did seriousness very well. They did the "exploration" and "diplomacy" stories pretty darn well. Some of the smaller human drama stuff they did was fantastic.
The bigger scope stuff they attempted was usually weak, with the exception of BOBW Part 1.
Again, all just my own personal tastes. I'm glad they TRIED...and I don't fault them at all for trying. I just don't think the success rate at varied tones and themes was as good as TOS or DS9.
The Orville pulled off both, seemingly effortlessly, in its pilot.
The thing that made Orville fun was that it's not supposed to be anything but. If you tried to watch Orville in the same way you will likely watch DSC...you'd have lost your mind.
In a way, that makes Orville brilliant...but also a very lightweight investment. Guaranteed fun, but never offering much more either.
I've no intention of taking Discovery as seriously as the producers would like. The world's not crying out for more Star Trek, and if the writing in DSC is not considerably more gripping and entertaining than the later ads suggest, I'll lose patience pretty quickly.
I do not give a fuck how it fits into the "Trek Universe," either. That's a waste of time.
There's a lot of entertaining TV.
TNG did some great comedy episodes. I'd put A Fist Full of Datas up there with The Trouble With Tribbles as some of the best comedy episodes of the franchise.
Starship Mine was a pretty great actions episode too.
TNG never had a scene that was as funny as this:
And there were plenty of examples from TOS where the comedy was more organic and honestly funny then anything they attempted on the TNG series in that vein.
The ONLY scene I ever thought was funny in an organic/non-forced way was the Diana Troi druken bar scene from ST:FC:
And there were plenty of examples from TOS where the comedy was more organic and honestly funny then anything they attempted on the TNG series in that vein.
The ONLY scene I ever thought was funny in an organic/non-forced way was the Diana Troi druken bar scene from ST:FC:
TNG wasn't great on comedy, because they tended towards farce. That's not to say there aren't funny scenes within episodes (often with Data, or a quip from Worf), but most of their intentionally comic episodes fell flat - True Q (Worf aside), Outrageous Okona (is that supposed to be funny?).
DS9 probably had the easiest time, with humour continually threaded throughout episodes, often with Quark or Odo, or a line from Garak, or Bashir/O'Brien. Even the comedy episodes mostly work - Magnificent Ferengi, Little Green Men, Our Man Bashir, Trials and Tribble-ations. The one major misstep is Profit and Lace.
DS9 probably had the easiest time, with humour continually threaded throughout episodes, often with Quark or Odo, or a line from Garak, or Bashir/O'Brien. Even the comedy episodes mostly work - Magnificent Ferengi, Little Green Men, Our Man Bashir, Trials and Tribble-ations. The one major misstep is Profit and Lace.
From:
https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/12/st...-about-capt-lorca-and-the-uss-discovery-crew/
"Lietenant Paul Stamets - the diligent scientist
Stamets studies Prototaxites stellaviatorae – a species made up of exotic matter found not only in our dimension, but also in a discrete subspace domain known as the ‘mycelial network.’ These subspace ‘shrooms are used in engineering for a mysterious new method of space travel. They are also somehow pivotal to the war with the Klingons."
Jesus Fucking Christ.
https://trekmovie.com/2017/09/12/st...-about-capt-lorca-and-the-uss-discovery-crew/
"Lietenant Paul Stamets - the diligent scientist
Stamets studies Prototaxites stellaviatorae – a species made up of exotic matter found not only in our dimension, but also in a discrete subspace domain known as the ‘mycelial network.’ These subspace ‘shrooms are used in engineering for a mysterious new method of space travel. They are also somehow pivotal to the war with the Klingons."
Jesus Fucking Christ.
Sounds like your typical Star Trek techno mumbo jumbo. I'm down with it.
Will it work with fruits? How about a salad?
Sounds great to me.
Or polaric ions.Only to the extent that they have not yet mentioned anomalies or tetryon bursts.
They call it Star Trek, but it's sounding more and more like effing Starship Mario.
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