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Discovery in Variety

You mean circular rooms existed before Star Trek?!? I call bullshit!!!
Point being, the reason the Navy came calling was because it's such an efficient and useful configuration, and was made identifiable in this form by Trek. Other shows try not to copy it, DSC uses it and puts a modern spin on it. What else were you expecting it to do..have a pool in it?

RAMA
 
Honestly? It looks like a set from the plethora of game shows recently.
My mistake..looks like an expansive, highly detailed bridge with 2017 aesthetics on an $8.5 million show that's never been done on this level in TV Trek to me. :lol:

RAMA
 
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RAMA

Absolutely loved this shot in the trailer.
 
The bridge design does look pretty generic. Are we going to be seeing people die from exploding consoles as well?

I would have liked to see a different take on the bridge layout/design. A departure from what we're used to seeing.

There's also tons of blue tones in the Starfleet imagery for some reason.

With the Klingon designs, like them or not, they're bold and have some vision behind them.
 
Anecdotes and correlation fallacies aren't facts,.

Sorry.
And yet, I'm right.

The facts are this...some "early" bridges even if they weren't called that, had similar designs to the 1701..some better known ones include the C57D from Forbidden Planet, the Cosmokrator from Silent Star(which looks a lot like Jeffries' early designs for the bridge), Raumpatrouille Orion..and it wasn't because of circular rooms only, because even Day the Earth Stood Still and Lost in Space had those..it was because of the efficient layout. Most of the others had controls or columns at the center, The 1701 had the commander there.

But none of these others are really what we think about when we think of a bridge. Just as we never really think of the C57D or the Space beagle when we think of FTL drive. In interviews (and I've read many) producers from other space scifi shows state they want to keep away from that design because it's that identifiable. So most modern shows post-TOS at least make an attempt at this unless they have a reason to copy it, usually these are parodies.

Something THAT identifiable is not generic.

So now the new show comes out...it follows that same pattern but upgrades the look to what we expect as what we might say is a default stereotype of a 2017 scifi...and all scifi borrows from a shared heritage. Yes the elements of other scifi are in it, that's endemic to our modern visualization, but it's within the framework of Trek. Show it to a casual viewer next to The Expanse or Dark Matter and they will immediately tell the DSC bridge looks like updated Star Trek.

As far as I can see, the biggest difference in the Shenzhou bridge (a great design top to bottom) is that instead of the straight, drywall-like bulkheads with monitors built in, it's an integrated set, that looks part of the ceiling and wall. I'm sure both design and buget had a lot to do with this.

Both the Discovery and Shenzhou upgrade things to volumetric displays as well as 3D ones. Tv Trek didn't have a lot of this, again..generic? Nope, it's the shared scifi aesthetic and different from what we've seen there.

You guys are never going to be right about it being generic.

RAMA
 
Whatever. What's going to happen is DSC will be nominated and win several production design awards then you'll conveniently forget it when I point out you guys were wrong. :bolian:

RAMA

The bridge design does look pretty generic. Are we going to be seeing people die from exploding consoles as well?

I would have liked to see a different take on the bridge layout/design. A departure from what we're used to seeing.

There's also tons of blue tones in the Starfleet imagery for some reason.

With the Klingon designs, like them or not, they're bold and have some vision behind them.

Other production design choices that are "different"? The location of the bridge in Shenzhou. The cutouts on ths saucer of Discovery. The integrated look of the Shenzhou bridge. To me the Discovery bridge just looks better made, more finely detailed. I never needed it to have new features like double decking.
 
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Absolutely loved this shot in the trailer.
They talk about the design influence from Ken Adams in the audio from the Canada Expo. You can immediately see it when the light highlights the detail here. It's a great shot.

RAMA
 
What does that have to do with anything? Britney Spears has won a Grammy. Do you think she's an awesome musician?
Your opinion is your own, you dislike it. Fine. But I have my own (most likely more informed) opinion and I differ. i would also trust the opinions of production designers at the ADG more than you, and I'm willing to bet DSC get's nominated for an ADG award.

https://www.adg.org/?art=adg_awards
 
Your opinion is your own, you dislike it. Fine. But I have my own (most likely more informed) opinion and I differ. i would also trust the opinions of production designers at the ADG more than you, and I'm willing to bet DSC get's nominated for an ADG award.

https://www.adg.org/?art=adg_awards
I don't dislike it. I think it's generic looking.

For the record, I was never liked much of the set and prop designs on TNG/DS9 but that didn't stop them from being my favorite Trek shows.

Even if it mattered, and DSC got an award for production design, that doesn't even necessarily mean it was because of the bridge design.
 
It's ok, I'll just take it you know better than to argue when demonstrably wrong.

I'll file your "facts" the same place I filed your "facts" about Star Trek Beyond making $200 million dollars in profit. If I've learned anything in my years here, is that your "facts" are about as factual as Donald Trump's.
 
I'll file your "facts" the same place I filed your "facts" about Star Trek Beyond making $200 million dollars in profit. If I've learned anything in my years here, is that your "facts" are about as factual as Donald Trump's.
It did make a profit, even those arguing with me about it admitted it.
 
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