TOS popular outside the US?
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From my own experience I would say that TOS is not only popular over here in Brazil but perhaps synonymous of Star Trek itself. Most people here seem to be unaware of TNG/VOY/DS9/ENT. I think TNG was the only post-TOS Trek that ever aired on our Broadcast Television. And I know that older folks here tell us that they grew up watching TOS. From the 70s through the 80s TOS was already being broadcast by Mainstream TV Networks.
It's safe to say The Original Series has a special place in our National Pop Culture. We even had a Volleyball move (!) named after Star Trek. It's called "Journey to the Stars". That's the literal translation from Portuguese of the name Star Trek had over here when it was on-air.
It's safe to say The Original Series has a special place in our National Pop Culture. We even had a Volleyball move (!) named after Star Trek. It's called "Journey to the Stars". That's the literal translation from Portuguese of the name Star Trek had over here when it was on-air.
Generally, TOS was considered a children's show in most foreign countries and doesn't have a great reputation. However, part of this is due to sporadic airings often years after it originally was shown. The same could be said of the sequel shows.
To me, possibly the most far ranging and significant aspect of ST: Discovery and not often spoken about, is its almost simultaneous airing in 188 countries. This can grow the ST name and stature as well as possibly increase foreign movie box office in the future.
To me, possibly the most far ranging and significant aspect of ST: Discovery and not often spoken about, is its almost simultaneous airing in 188 countries. This can grow the ST name and stature as well as possibly increase foreign movie box office in the future.
It wasn't exactly considered a children's show here in the UK back in the seventies I'd venture to say for no other reason than it's time of transmission in those long ago days! Anything from 650pm to 740pm. Hardly the kids time for watching but in the eighties it did land itself in the 510pm slot for quite a while!
I rewatched The Man Trap a few weeks back on Netflix with the family and they commented at the end where The Salt Vampire tried to kill Kirk and Spock's attack upon Nancy and it's ultimate demise that how corny it was!!! There's certainly no requirement for taste in my home it seems!
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I rewatched The Man Trap a few weeks back on Netflix with the family and they commented at the end where The Salt Vampire tried to kill Kirk and Spock's attack upon Nancy and it's ultimate demise that how corny it was!!! There's certainly no requirement for taste in my home it seems!
JB
I thought that was due to the rewrites when dubbing.
Just out of curiosity, do TV shows in the UK routinely begin ten minutes or forty minutes after the hour, rather than on the hour or half-hour? Seems a bit odd.
That's what happened when the show was originally broadcast in Germany. Some episodes were radically changed by dubbing in completely different dialogue. Did other countries do that as well?
Of course it is, and was.
I read somewhere that the Japanese distributor didn't just translate the dialog for dubbing, they made up their own stories. And Sulu was the boss. I can't say for certain if that's true. Also, they apparently changed Scotty to Charlie and Sulu became Kato.
Shows in the uk usually start on the hour or half past, the most obvious exception is if it's an American show on a BBC channel. In the UK each household (if they have a tv or use BBC catch up services) has to have a TV licence which is about £150 a year. Because of this fee, which predominantly goes to the BBC, the BBC are not allowed to show adverts (they can show promos for their own shows) TNG runs at approx 45 minutes with no adverts and was on at 6 so the next programme after TNG would start at 6:45. TOS was a little longer if memory serves me so was often billed as finishing as 6:50. Programmes like the simpsons are around 22 minutes minus the adverts so we're sometimes advertised as finishing at 6:20 or 6:25.
Well in the 70s and 80s they used to as most shows made by the BBC were only fifty minutes in length and they are a non-advertising channel (or so they tell us) there would be ten minutes without a picture as such! Nowadays they've upped the time of their shows to sixty minutes for drama or forty five in some cases for their lesser stuff like Doctor Who!
JB
TOS is still pretty popular here in Germany, although its not airing on any of the "main channels" right now it´s constantly beeing shown on one of the other channels. The regular cut TV-Master has been replaced by the remastered version here fairly recently, which means the episodes are beeing shown uncut on german TV now. Prior to that the episodes used to be cut..sometimes missing up to 10 minutes. Those cut parts have been dubbed (with mostly new voice actors, because many of the original voice actors have now died or become unavailable) and re-inserted for the first DVD edition..but they kept using the old cut tv masters for airing for a while.
So was it dubbed, or translated into Portuguese, or just run in English?
It was dubbed. I did a quick search about it and found out TOS probably aired in Brazil even earlier than I thought. The first time they dubbed the series into Portuguese was in 1967. The original PT-BR dubbing was replaced later during the 1980s by an updated version that still is the official one, apparently.
I'll confirm that TOS is popular in the UK, even non fans have heard of 'Spock, Kirk, the doctor (McCoy), Scotty, the Russian kid, the Japanese guy and the black lady'. Star Trek is always on T.V over here, on CBS action or the Scfi/Horror channel.
I'm the only TOS fan in Australia!
Well it seems like that.
Well it seems like that.
Then again we used to have Holiday Trek on every day in the Christmas holidays back in 1974 I believe!
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