Agreed. It was a tragedy that the whole falling out between GR and FJ caused such a stir about it.
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Agreed. I SO wanted to see the FJ Dreadnought on the screen somehow (Yes, I supposed the AGT 1701-D was a 'homage' to it, but I really wanted to see that ship on the TV/Film screen.)
It's hideous. Most of FJ's stuff is.
Right. Hideous stuff that launched and inspired over 4 decades of artistic ideas for the benefit of the fandom and franchise alike.
Artistic ideas about arranging the same parts in different, often unappealing, ways?Right. Hideous stuff that launched and inspired over 4 decades of artistic ideas for the benefit of the fandom and franchise alike.
So you're okay with literally ignoring and discounting over 40 years of starship design which, in the purest sense is, yes, a rearrangement of common modular parts for different mission profiles with an extremely small list of exceptions in that time?
'Cause that doesn't ever actually really happen in real life?
I repeat:
and add: 
I'm willing to ignore a bunch of ugly fanon ships, yes.So you're okay with literally ignoring and discounting over 40 years of starship design which, in the purest sense is, yes, a rearrangement of common modular parts for different mission profiles with an extremely small list of exceptions in that time?
'Cause that doesn't ever actually really happen in real life?
I repeat:
Just because a ship may be ugly when seen as a blueprint, doesn't mean an onscreen rendering must be.
I agree with longinus, that design just sucks. The placement of the 3rd nacelle is just silly
I'm talking about this:
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which is a BEAUTIFUL Star Trek ship.
Not the fugly 1980ies modern art disasterpiece that is this:
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The (and I hated how this flying pizza cutter looked since I first saw it in 1987) extremely ugly 1701-D. (YMMV)
I know.
You're confused. It definitely is not beautiful. It is based on Connie, which of course is beautiful, but this is a horrid frankenmonster build on mutilated corpse of a Connie. (Though the Mickey Mouse deflector is funny.) Nor it is a Star Trek ship, it is a fan created abomination.
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which is a BEAUTIFUL Star Trek ship.
My mileage certainly varies, Galaxy might not reach the perfection of Constitution refit, but it is still one of the best looking scfi ships ever created.Not the fugly 1980ies modern art disasterpiece that is this:
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The (and I hated how this flying pizza cutter looked since I first saw it in 1987) extremely ugly 1701-D. (YMMV)
I'm talking about this:
^^^^
which is a BEAUTIFUL Star Trek ship.
It's pretty ugly, really.
As you said to each his own. the only 24th Century era ship design I liked was the Ambassador Class:
Andf I've never really been a fan of the TOS feature film era designs of the 1701 Refit, the Miranda and Oberth classes; and I HATED (and still do) the look of the "Flying Bathtub" Excelsior Class.
The TOS era (including all the ships from the Franz Joseph Star Trek Technical Manual are the designs I love.
I'm talking about this:
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which is a BEAUTIFUL Star Trek ship.
I love the Franz Joseph Dreadnought!
Have to admit, I love the Excelsior and Galaxy classes. Never much liked the 1701-refit.
Oh god, what have you done...
How detailed were his plans? Is there much online about the saucer and deck layout, and neck?
I'm talking about this:
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which is a BEAUTIFUL Star Trek ship.
You know what I love this design..... It's old, from the 60s but hell I love the look of this.
Not the fugly 1980ies modern art disasterpiece that is this:
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The (and I hated how this flying pizza cutter looked since I first saw it in 1987) extremely ugly 1701-D. (YMMV)
Bite me........ I think this is ugly too.
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