Well that kilt is part of his dress uniform.
Not going to argue over Ro, as her attitude would not grant her any favors.
Still uncertain about Worf. If Picard and Sisko allowed the baldric, maybe he got an exception early in his career?
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Not going to argue over Ro, as her attitude would not grant her any favors.
Still uncertain about Worf. If Picard and Sisko allowed the baldric, maybe he got an exception early in his career?
Yeah, but it's a personalized part, nobody else wears one.
1) That was Picard she corrected about her name.
2) It happened after he tore into her about the earring. Riker gets on her case about the earring quite literally the moment she beamed on board and introduced herself.
3) It's actually a pretty civil conversation when she corrects him, and indeed Picard at least recognizes he made a mistake and apoligizes.
It doesn't matter what her history is or who shows respect or whatever. The simple fact is Starfleet does allow accessories to the uniform for reasons related to cultural significance. By refusing to allow her to wear the earring, Riker is denying her the right of her culture and heritage which flies in the face of everything Starfleet stands for. And by allowing Worf his sash, Riker's now practicing double standard. You don't get to pick and choose who you're going to enforce the rules with, and any superior who does that deserves whatever attitude the offended subordinate gives in response.
Is It the case Starfleet does not allow cultural adornments on its duty uniform, except by the permission of the commanding officer? Or is it the other way around that the CO or XO can ask the officer to remove that item?
Both and neither.
For a species that says IDIC is one of the cornerstones of their philosophy, they seem to have a strangely monolithic culture ...
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There's no requirement for the Vulcans to speak the truth. (Especially not when they say they never lie.)
Similarly, I doubt Starfleet really "stands for" much. It's a combat and exploration force and will burn infants to get stuff done because nobody else's gonna get it done. Promoting diversity has never been on its explicit agenda - to the contrary, inhuman practices and phenomena are very much on its to-undo list from TOS to TNG to ENT, even if it the attitudes seem to mellow a bit in TNG and there's still a level of impotence limiting the undoing in ENT.
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Similarly, I doubt Starfleet really "stands for" much. It's a combat and exploration force and will burn infants to get stuff done because nobody else's gonna get it done. Promoting diversity has never been on its explicit agenda - to the contrary, inhuman practices and phenomena are very much on its to-undo list from TOS to TNG to ENT, even if it the attitudes seem to mellow a bit in TNG and there's still a level of impotence limiting the undoing in ENT.
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He accidentally spilled prune juice on it and the liquid reacted badly with the metal. The stain wouldn't come out no matter what they tried, so Worf had to get a new sash. Unfortunately, the previous pattern had been discontinued in the replicator catalogue, so his new one was different.
Why shouldn't she correct him, without having to beg to be properly addressed? Calling her "Ensign Laren" would be like saying "Captain Jean-Luc" or "Commander Will". She had the right to tell them how she was supposed to be addressed. After all, that's her legal name.
To be honest, the way the episode Ensign Ro presented the Bajoran name thing really is sloppy and surprisingly close minded of everyone. So, Picard and Riker automatically assume to address Ro as "Ensign Laren" because they are used to individual names first and family names last. Despite the fact that Picard in particular is meant to be a character with an extensive depth of "worldly wisdom" about the galaxy around him and the many different cultures that inhabit it, and indeed according to his log later in the episode he'd been studying Bajoran history since he was a child, he's shocked to learn that for Bajorans, family names are first, individual names last. Ro even adds that most modern Bajorans have adapted to the expectations of everyone else and have allowed people to believe they have a "traditional" naming structure of individual name first, family name last. So, apparently Bajorans are the only race in the Alpha Quadrant which do something as different as placing the family name first. Despite the fact that there are cultures on Earth today which follow a similar naming structure.
I mean, I get part of it was exposition for the audience, but the way it's presented in the episode really makes everyone look shockingly ignorant by modern day standards, to say nothing of enlightened and accepting 24th century.
I mean, I get part of it was exposition for the audience, but the way it's presented in the episode really makes everyone look shockingly ignorant by modern day standards, to say nothing of enlightened and accepting 24th century.
Ro could have used a more appropriate tone of voice. One befitting a junior officer.
Instead, she was insolent and rude. That's the problem.
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Nah, he didn't discover prune juice until "Yesterday's Enterprise" in season 3.
So maybe someone spilled a Slurpee on it in Ten-Forward. The ones with blue food coloring are especially frustrating to clean up if they're spilled.
The point is, it got spilled on, the stain wouldn't come off no matter how much scrubbing was applied, so he had to get a new one.
Jewelry with dangling portions that fit into a body part, which can become snagged and pull your head into machinery or rip a hole in your flesh are health hazards. Presumably, Starfleet could consult with Bajor to develop a safer version of the earring/other acceptable cultural wear. That Ferengi hat probably flies off safely with a stiff breeze or a good tug, and the sash is tightly cinched around Worf's midsection.
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