Except the Vulcans wouldn't care, if you want to strike fear and terror like that you would need to attack Earth.
From Undiscovered Country.
From the Trouble with Tribbles.
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From the Trouble with Tribbles.
The Undiscovered Country was years later (and still doesn't establish how extensive or effective those posts are), and in the Trouble with Tribbles they were sat alongside K7 when they picked up the Klingons on immediate approach. They establish earlier in dialogue they are one parsec from the border and yet got no warning at all, which was exactly my point. If they can only pick up Klingons when they're almost on top of them, I can see how they'd manage to get to Vulcan.
They could get instantaneous sensor scans from at minimum a distance of one parsec.
A Parsec is 3.26 lightyears.
A silly question to ask, because we both know it's not answerable, but what kind of energy is their scanner using? Is there some sort of official canon explanation? What kind of particle or wave can instantly travel 3 light years hitting an object and instantly back track 3 light years without destroying one or both ships?
Or maybe they're just transporting a camera out there and back.
Sensors operate at the needs of the plot.
Attacking any key Federation world could strike fear and terror in Federation citizens.
Not trekkie enough, need more.
EPS conduits...antimatter....chronitons...main sensor array
I actually went to Memory Alpha and they don't have an explanation of how they work, just stuff concerning their ranges and uses in different episodes. Unless Lawrence Krass explained it in his Star Trek Physics book.
From the TNG technical manual we have this description of the way the sensors work.A silly question to ask, because we both know it's not answerable, but what kind of energy is their scanner using? Is there some sort of official canon explanation? What kind of particle or wave can instantly travel 3 light years hitting an object and instantly back track 3 light years without destroying one or both ships?
Or maybe they're just transporting a camera out there and back.
You mentioned it yourself: Sybok.
That could have had an impact on everything and why Sarek was the way he was. Sybok was the opposite of everything Sarek wanted for a child; Spock was a disapointment, Burnham was a challenge. One way or another, he'd have his perfect child.
That's just speculation and guesswork that's likely not going to unfold. But in terms of the wider picture in Star Trek, there's already reason and it's already well established that Spock's family wasn't exactly the closest, the nicest to be in and that Sarek was a bit of a dick.
The only nice Sarek we got was in 2009; and even then his nicest moment was after everything went to shit.
In the TOS timeframe, there was no "Klingon Neutral Zone," and certainly no reference to listening posts / boarder starbases / etc. Based on everything we see, in the TOS timeframe, the Klingons wander the same space that the Enterprise does. It wasn't like the Romulans where they clearly stay behind a defined and enforced boarder.
In the timeframe that DSC takes place in (~10 years prior to TOS), there isn't even any Organian Peace Treaty yet...no limitations on hostilities or rules of engagement.
There's any number of perfectly acceptable reasons that this could make sense. In fact, probably a nearly infinite number of logical and reasonable creative reasons.
Deep breaths everyone, deeeeeeeeeeeep breaths.
In the timeframe that DSC takes place in (~10 years prior to TOS), there isn't even any Organian Peace Treaty yet...no limitations on hostilities or rules of engagement.
There's any number of perfectly acceptable reasons that this could make sense. In fact, probably a nearly infinite number of logical and reasonable creative reasons.
Deep breaths everyone, deeeeeeeeeeeep breaths.
^ Indeed! To be honest, I'm baffled by the cries of inconsistency. TOS wasn't exactly the fully formed fleshed out concept that came later. Starfleet, the Federation, allies, enemies etc were all defined after the original.
Plenty of creative room to breathe
Plenty of creative room to breathe
But general themes, a back history, and assorted details were established.
The Vulcans sure cared when Nero attacked.
They were pretty much making it up as they went along. And were more than willing to erase what was established to move an episode forward.
Maybe it was a campus on a world closer to the border?
I think Earth, Vulcan, Qo'NoS and Romulas are pretty close to one another. Earth and Vulcan aren't actually at the center of Federation space. The Federation and the Empires will have grown in the direction of "least resistance". Vulcan may very well be close to the border and the Federation expanded in the opposite direction.
Yes, Klingons are so bad a spying they wouldn't have devices to counter things like that so they could carry out such espionage. (Sorry, but I'm so tired of the Star Trek trope that their technology and scanners are infallible.) And yes, TOS was guilty of this too in it's later seasons - not so much during the first season though. It went to ridiculous height in the 24th century era. That's one reason I love they're not going beyond to the 25th, etc.In an atmosphere of intergalactic political hostilities, I would think simple medical scans on all incoming visitors to Vulcan would find these Klingons easily enough. I'm looking forward the the explanation of how the Klingons attack Vulcan. More meat for the hungry canon watchers.
We've had Breen surprise attack Earth before. And the Xindi pop up and blow things up. And the Borg...
It doesn't seem that hard to surprise anyone. And the Klingons can invisible themselves. Which helps.
It doesn't seem that hard to surprise anyone. And the Klingons can invisible themselves. Which helps.
