Does anyone remember when this trailer gave you a lot of hope for the movie?

[RAMA]

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While the first viewing was an adrenaline rush..kind of like STTMP...seeing the crew together on the big screen, and seeing Picard and Kirk together with a bigger budget. It's not long after that the key problems with this movie become apparent. I still rank this as the #1 trek movie out of the 13 with the biggest plot holes.

RAMA

 

[KirkusOveractus]

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While the first viewing was an adrenaline rush..kind of like STTMP...seeing the crew together on the big screen, and seeing Picard and Kirk together with a bigger budget. It's not long after that the key problems with this movie become apparent. I still rank this as the #1 trek movie out of the 13 with the biggest plot holes.

RAMA

I was at a con in King of Prussia, PA (won the sound alike contest as Kirk that day!) when they unveiled the teaser trailer for the movie. It had tons of promise, and being in a huge room full of fans watching this only contributed to the excitement.

I remember being underwhelmed by the finished product. The beginning of the movie on 1701-B was good to me, including the champagne bottle sequence that ends with the TOS fanfare. But as the movie went on, it was a talky mess with tons of unexplained events and clumsy resolution to other things.

Add to that Shatner agreeing to how Kirk died was something that should have been done better. I agree that we don't pick our time and place to pass on, but in the world of fiction you can.

 

[RAMA]

I'm not overly far from you here in South Jersey. We had the same anticipation here, and underwhelming was a good word for it.

David Carson was my biggest disappointment. I thought he would make the movie bigger somehow, more stylish.

The set-piece portions weren't bad. The Enterprise looked pretty good, and the guest stars were decent. I think Brannon and Moore later went on to say they wished they'd been more focused with the story and not tried to put so much in, I think the pacing was hurt by it.

I was at a con in King of Prussia, PA (won the sound alike contest as Kirk that day!) when they unveiled the teaser trailer for the movie. It had tons of promise, and being in a huge room full of fans watching this only contributed to the excitement.

I remember being underwhelmed by the finished product. The beginning of the movie on 1701-B was good to me, including the champagne bottle sequence that ends with the TOS fanfare. But as the movie went on, it was a talky mess with tons of unexplained events and clumsy resolution to other things.

Add to that Shatner agreeing to how Kirk died was something that should have been done better. I agree that we don't pick our time and place to pass on, but in the world of fiction you can.

 

[F. King Daniel]

This Star Trek VI trailer played at the start of many of my old Next Gen VHS tapes - and I watched it over and over! It was so atmospheric and cool. Sadly, the movie didn't live up, IMO.

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[KirkusOveractus]

I'm not overly far from you here in South Jersey. We had the same anticipation here, and underwhelming was a good word for it.

David Carson was my biggest disappointment. I thought he would make the movie bigger somehow, more stylish.

The set-piece portions weren't bad. The Enterprise looked pretty good, and the guest stars were decent. I think Brannon and Moore later went on to say they wished they'd been more focused with the story and not tried to put so much in, I think the pacing was hurt by it.

That's funny: I was dating a girl in South Jersey at the time, and we saw the movie at a theatre not far from Deptford that kicked things off with showing TMP-TUC over 2 nights, capping off with the midnight showing of GEN! We went to it, and I remember being excited with the ads saying "Boldly Go before anyone else in the galaxy to see Star Trek Generations!"

I agree with trying to cram so much in. There were moments that really needed to have some time to them, to breathe and resonate (1701-D crashing needed a little more time to it and cut a different way to allow the audience to appreciate and absorb what happened. Riker looking up through the bridge dome to the sky was brilliant, but felt rushed, as well as Kirk's death feeling like it was done quickly to get to the next set of overwrought dialogue).

I understand that it was a time constraint to get the movie out to capitalize on TNG, but with just a little more time on script and rethinking the direction, it could have been much better and would have been a nice passing of the torch and bridge to First Contact, making a one-two punch for TNG movies.

 

[RAMA]

I dated a girl from near Deptford years later. lol Hopefully not the same one.

That's funny: I was dating a girl in South Jersey at the time, and we saw the movie at a theatre not far from Deptford that kicked things off with showing TMP-TUC over 2 nights, capping off with the midnight showing of GEN! We went to it, and I remember being excited with the ads saying "Boldly Go before anyone else in the galaxy to see Star Trek Generations!"

I agree with trying to cram so much in. There were moments that really needed to have some time to them, to breathe and resonate (1701-D crashing needed a little more time to it and cut a different way to allow the audience to appreciate and absorb what happened. Riker looking up through the bridge dome to the sky was brilliant, but felt rushed, as well as Kirk's death feeling like it was done quickly to get to the next set of overwrought dialogue).

I understand that it was a time constraint to get the movie out to capitalize on TNG, but with just a little more time on script and rethinking the direction, it could have been much better and would have been a nice passing of the torch and bridge to First Contact, making a one-two punch for TNG movies.

 

[Isolar]

I was at a con in King of Prussia, PA (won the sound alike contest as Kirk that day!) when they unveiled the teaser trailer for the movie. It had tons of promise, and being in a huge room full of fans watching this only contributed to the excitement.

I remember being underwhelmed by the finished product. The beginning of the movie on 1701-B was good to me, including the champagne bottle sequence that ends with the TOS fanfare. But as the movie went on, it was a talky mess with tons of unexplained events and clumsy resolution to other things.

Add to that Shatner agreeing to how Kirk died was something that should have been done better. I agree that we don't pick our time and place to pass on, but in the world of fiction you can.

I kept waiting for Kirk and Picard to be on the bridge together. The line from the trailer about cheating death was cut from the film and was spoken to Harriman anyway. But I only saw the trailer once and the sequence was so brief that I couldn't tell where Kirk was or to whom he was speaking. Also, that might have been the last time that I was really excited and surprised by a trailer - because I literally had no idea the film was being made! These days, you hear every production detail online, but I wasn't into the fanzines and such back then, which how people kept up with things at the time.

 

[Isolar]

This Star Trek VI trailer played at the start of many of my old Next Gen VHS tapes - and I watched it over and over! It was so atmospheric and cool. Sadly, the movie didn't live up, IMO.

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For me, that sequence from the start of the peace conference until Chang is destroyed is still one of my favorites.

 

[tharpdevenport]

[Plot holes aside, it's the best TNG film and the only one true to its characters.

 

[drt]

I understand that it was a time constraint to get the movie out to capitalize on TNG, but with just a little more time on script and rethinking the direction, it could have been much better and would have been a nice passing of the torch and bridge to First Contact, making a one-two punch for TNG movies.

Oddly enough, they spent quite a bit of time on Generations, while completely rushing All Good Things, yet the latter is much better. To follow up on your "rethinking the direction" idea, they would have likely been better served just doing a good TNG story and not bothering with shoehorning Kirk into it.

 

[KennyB]

Plot holes aside, it's the best TNG[I/] film and the only one true to its characters TNG.

Really? I thought FC was the only really good TNG movie followed by GEN, INS, then NEM.

 

[Smellmet]

I think Generations is an excellent film until the Nexus scenes, then it all falls apart for me.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Oddly enough, they spent quite a bit of time on Generations, while completely rushing All Good Things, yet the latter is much better. To follow up on your "rethinking the direction" idea, they would have likely been better served just doing a good TNG story and not bothering with shoehorning Kirk into it.

What I sometimes think of when I watch Generations is that when Kelley and Nimoy turned down the appearance in the beginning, had Shatner said no as well I think there wouldn't have been a 1701-B opening to the movie at all. It probably would have just started on the HMS Enterprise.

That would have taken care of Kirk not being in it. Apart from that, it was too wordy. Everything was explained to death and didn't need to be.

 

[Khan 2.0]

Branga talks Kirk death at STLV (sounds like TOS v TNG : Dawn of Justice)

I think Ron and I envisioned the two Enterprises kinda locked in battle and somehow they would meet, but they would get together and fight the bad guy, and Kirk would go down on his bridge, instead of a bridge falling on him
http://trekmovie.com/2017/08/11/slt...e-died-star-trek-enterprise-regrets-and-more/

 

[Paradise City]

I liked the film well enough. But the writers seem intimidated by Kirk and write very tentatively for him. Why is he needed just to brawl on the planet? Seems weak to me. Kirk is the big man who got the whole Enterprise craze going but noone gives a tuppence after he dies? There's plenty of heavy stuff for the TNG characters to get stuck into but Kirk bobs about in a kinda limbo.

Kirk in this film is like the work experience kid where the staff struggle to find something for him to do. They could've done better showcasing his range for one last outting,

 

[Vger23]

This Star Trek VI trailer played at the start of many of my old Next Gen VHS tapes - and I watched it over and over! It was so atmospheric and cool. Sadly, the movie didn't live up, IMO.

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By the trailer alone, TUC looked like it would be head-and-shoulders above any other Trek movie to that point.

As it was, it was pretty mediocre.

 

[Vger23]

The GEN trailer was pretty good...but there was still something that felt "off" about it at the time. I could never put my finger on it...but it was clear to me that it wasn't going to be what I hoped / expected.

 

[F. King Daniel]

Old Trek movie trailers would die for me the minute they kicked in the TMP fanfare theme. It was a tension/mood/atmosphere killer.

 

[tharpdevenport]

Really? I thought FC was the only really good TNG movie followed by GEN, INS, then NEM.

Well, of course, otherwise I wouldn't have typed it. As for what I think about the other TNG films:

First Contact = terrible.

Insurrrection = borderline terrible.

Nemesis = utter shit.

 

[Kor]

This was when I found out it wasn't going to be called "Star Trek: The Next Generation: The Motion Picture." Imagine my profound disappointment.

Kor