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Karate Kid (1984) Sequel Series coming in 2018

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We can add this to the weird TV returns of recently. It will be on You Tube No One Watches... I mean You Tube Red. (Can we agree that's probably the worst named product since the Wii U?)

The Karate Men?

YouTube Red has ordered to series Cobra Kai, a continuation of the classic 1984 film The Karate Kid, with Ralph Macchio and William Zabka on board to reprise their roles as Daniel LaRusso and Johnny Lawrence. Per The Hollywood Reporter, the 10-episode series landed at the streaming service after a bidding war with the likes of Netflix, Amazon, Hulu and AMC.

Set to premiere in 2018, Cobra Kai is described as a half-hour comedy that takes place 30 years after the All Valley Karate Tournament. A down-on-his-luck Johnny decides to reopen the Cobra Kai dojo. Meanwhile, Daniel finds himself struggling without his mentor Mr. Miyagi (the late Pat Morita). Soon enough, their onetime rivalry is reignited, and the two decide that the best way to deal with their feud is through — you guessed it — karate.

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This is just really odd to me, like who is asking for this? I guess it couldn't be worse than the reboot several years back. Plus it does have the living original cast. 30 minute comedy is also off putting. But we shall see. I wish Amazon got it, they just got a bunch of 90 shows yesterday including Roseanne and Grace Under Fire. I feel like this would fit.
 
I feel like a lot of people have the same attitude as I do, which at first would be "awesome!" and then would complain that it's a 30 minute comedy. If they kept the tone, this would be VERY interesting.
 
If they don't license the song "Sweep the Leg" for use, they're crazy.
 
Yeah, that is a weird one. They recently made a new movie with Jackie Chan, so I kind of thought it would be more along those lines, but a sequel series to the original movies at this point?
 
Heh, has it already been seven years? I actually thought it wasn't a bad movie for what it was. But it definitely wasn't as memorable.
 
Heh, has it already been seven years? I actually thought it wasn't a bad movie for what it was. But it definitely wasn't as memorable.

I swear there was going to be sequels and even a spinoff of it, but I guess the Smith's went 'screw it' and moved on to this.
 
described as a half-hour comedy

What the actual Fuck???

I'm extremely hesitant about remakes or Spin Offs because they usually suck but taking 2 has been actors from a much beloved 80s movie and trying to make some money off it is both sad and infuriating. I just can't see this going any good way but will of course tune in to see the pilot at least (I'm a hypocrite that way) and then make a final decision but my hopes are extremely slim.
 
I swear there was going to be sequels and even a spinoff of it, but I guess the Smith's went 'screw it' and moved on to this.


Yeah, I thought I had remembered hearing about sequels, and I thought the movie did well enough? But again, I think there's also the question of how well it resonated. And speaking of which, how would you make a sequel series to the original series at this point? Which of the demographics are they shooting for? If those that are only familiar with the recent movie and not old enough to have experienced the original movies, they're going to be confused and possibly disappointed and I question how well it would resonate with this crowd. And then there are those who grew up with the original movies like me, and personally I feel that time won't be kind to this. The 3rd movie with Hilary Swank was a disappointment and I fear this could be more like that.
 
They could always make Daniel a karate coach or something. There are frankly worse ideas out there. Just the idea that it needs to be original actors for this to work is odd.
 
and I thought the movie did well enough?
It made ten times it's budget, so yeah...it did pretty well.

If those that are only familiar with the recent movie and not old enough to have experienced the original movies, they're going to be confused and possibly disappointed and I question how well it would resonate with this crowd.
I'd argue that crowd doesn't really exist. The movie did well, but it came and went like so many disposable movies these days. In my opinion, it had no real impact beyond all the "Why is a Chinese man teaching karate?" jokes, (not to mention the lameness of having Jackie Chan beat up little kids) so the true lasting impact of The Karate Kid is the iconography of the original movie. If you're gonna make a comedy series based on it, the original is the one to go for...as well as being beloved, it also gives them the '80s nostalgia button that is so popular right now.
 
Heh, has it already been seven years? I actually thought it wasn't a bad movie for what it was. But it definitely wasn't as memorable.

Makes sense. The Smith movie was the same story, but told differently. It took a GREAT movie and turned it into a GOOD movie. The problem was that the movie doesn't have the same meaning if the main character isn't in high school. Jaden Smith was just too young.

The Karate Kid was just awesome, because it was a movie where rooting for the villains is actually cool. How do you think the Sweep the Leg video was so popular? The Cobra Kai were cool.

The remake couldn't capture the villains either.
 
Makes sense. The Smith movie was the same story, but told differently. It took a GREAT movie and turned it into a GOOD movie. The problem was that the movie doesn't have the same meaning if the main character isn't in high school. Jaden Smith was just too young.


Yeah, that's true. And the original was somewhat of a cultural phenomenon. Now a days, I'd like to think we're more culturally aware, and our options of all these different martial arts have blossomed. I doubt the new series will have quite the same impact anymore.
 
Makes sense. The Smith movie was the same story, but told differently. It took a GREAT movie and turned it into a GOOD movie. The problem was that the movie doesn't have the same meaning if the main character isn't in high school. Jaden Smith was just too young.

The Karate Kid was just awesome, because it was a movie where rooting for the villains is actually cool. How do you think the Sweep the Leg video was so popular? The Cobra Kai were cool.

The remake couldn't capture the villains either.

Really? Rooting for Cobra Kai?

I don't know about anyone who liked the CK guys, they were all jerks. About the only small redeeming quality was at the end of the tournament when one of the guys was ordered by Kreese to go for the injured leg and he protests and does it unwillingly (and immediately apologizes once he incapacitates Daniel).

The beginning of Karate Kid 2 expands a bit on this when his students "rise" up against Kreese showing that they learned something and are not willing to follow Reese anymore before he grabs one and beats up on the others.
 
Yeah, that's true. And the original was somewhat of a cultural phenomenon. Now a days, I'd like to think we're more culturally aware, and our options of all these different martial arts have blossomed. I doubt the new series will have quite the same impact anymore.

I don't think the problem is so much doing the new series, as it is making it a comedy. How is this story a comedy? I think the issue of someone rising up against bullies would resonate today just as much as it did then. Who doesn't like a good underdog story? Karate Kid was a story about someone that overcame terrible odds. It also was a father/son story. It succeeded on a lot of levels. It absolutely could work today, but not if the main character is 10 years old, which was the problem with the remake. Plus, the remake so closely followed the original script that it brought very little to the table.

Really? Rooting for Cobra Kai?

I don't know about anyone who liked the CK guys, they were all jerks. About the only small redeeming quality was at the end of the tournament when one of the guys was ordered by Kreese to go for the injured leg and he protests and does it unwillingly (and immediately apologizes once he incapacitates Daniel).

The beginning of Karate Kid 2 expands a bit on this when his students "rise" up against Kreese showing that they learned something and are not willing to follow Reese anymore before he grabs one and beats up on the others.

Rooting for the Cobra Kai is fun. They were fun villains, and Daniel was kind of annoying.

I love interpreting the story from their point of view. They were not horrible people.

Johnny was flawed, but not a bad kid. Yes, there are those guys in high school that have it all and are jerks about it. But Johnny rolled into that movie realizing he made mistakes and wanted to turn things around. He didn't want to be the bad kid anymore.

All he wanted to do was talk to Ally in the beginning. Just talk. Was he wrong to grab the radio and break it? Yes. But he was frustrated and then Daniel stuck his nose in Johnny's business, at a point where Johnny was clearly upset. Ever get rejected by a girl? It kind of sucks. Imagine that happening in front of all your friends, and then all of hers right after, and then some kid tries to butt in and play hero.

You're not going to shake his hand and say "nice to meet you."

Now if you watch, after that initial confrontation over the radio, it was Daniel that got physical. Up until that point, the most you had was a shove with no one hurt. Daniel charged at Johnny, and Johnny used the minimal amount of force needed to stop Daniel from hurting him.

Johnny was done with the fight. He reminded Ally that all he wanted to do was talk, and the confrontation could have been avoided. He walked over to Daniel to ask him if he was done. Johnny was clearly the superior fighter, but he showed Daniel mercy. Daniel took a cheap shot. It was only then that Johnny put him down for good.

Pretty much every confrontation was initiated by Daniel from then on.

Even 2 months later, at Halloween, Daniel was the one attacked Johnny and caused that beating he got.

As Myagi would later say, "no such thing as bad student, just bad teacher." If you want to go after Kreese, there is an argument. But Kreese's idea was that you do what you have to do to stop someone from hurting you.

Daniel actually helped teach Johnny that Kreese was right. Again, on the beach, when Johnny showed Daniel mercy, Daniel punched him in the face.

You could argue that had Daniel not been at the beach, things would have gone very differently that year for him.

Incidentally, when Bobby apologized to Daniel, it's unclear if the apology was real or not. It may have been an acting job.

Also, that scene at the opening of Karate Kid 2 was actually meant to be the final scene of the first movie.

But you do bring up a point--Kreese's behavior at the tournament turned the kids off on him. They were not irredeemable. They were not bad kids.
 
I don't think the problem is so much doing the new series, as it is making it a comedy. How is this story a comedy?

That is true. The movie did have some comedic elements, but then what movie didn't? It's like how The Martian ended up being labeled as a comedy, even though while it had its funny moments, was mostly a serious sci-fi. I get the feeling that the series is going to be treated much like many movie versions of classic TV series, where they become comedies even while the originals never were.
 
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