Trailer #2 - Consolidated Discussion

[Jedi_Master]

I understand that trailers are stitched together contraptions meant to get people excited about a film or show.
That's cool.
However, this one was very jumbled, and didn't really do much for me visually.

 

[Cake]

I was hoping for an optimistic series portraying a positive future. DIS is clearly the opposite. It is all about war, death and destruction. Everything is dark, bleak and depressive. No light, no colours. There is not even a hint of humour and fun. I am really disappointed.

 

[Kor]

This trailer got me more excited for the show than the first one did.

But I agree that everything looks a little too dark, grim and joyless. But that seems to be par for the course these days as the pretentious trend in movies and television. Heaven forbid entertainment actually be fun.

Kor

 

[Jedi_Master]

This trailer got me more excited for the show than the first one did.

But I agree that everything looks a little too dark, grim and joyless. But that seems to be par for the course these days as the pretentious trend in movies and television. Heaven forbid entertainment actually be fun.

Kor

I've been watching Leverage on Netflix (a show that is almost 10 years old) and I was struck by how innocent and light it seems when compared to crime drama or any kind of drama on television/streaming today.

It's refreshing, in a way.

I hope that the new Trek series remembers how to have fun.

 

[fireproof78]

This trailer got me more excited for the show than the first one did.

But I agree that everything looks a little too dark, grim and joyless. But that seems to be par for the course these days as the pretentious trend in movies and television. Heaven forbid entertainment actually be fun.

Kor

The fun isn't scheduled until Tuesday....2021

 

[ralph]

"You're mad!"

"I'm Mudd."

This looks really good. I hope it lives up to the hype.

It looks nothing like the world of TOS. Not just the look, but the technology is completely wrong too. Forcefields of the kind seen here are the stuff of TNG and VOY. I don't mind one bit, I'm going in assuming a reboot more influenced by the recent Trek movies, but others I'm sure will.

Why not? It was the visual effect in 1966. Imagine, Gene with a today's technology

 

[Jedi_Master]

My working theory is that the 4 - year war with the Klingons led to a slow downward spiral in the Federation economy, leading to years of budget cuts and reductions. The economy only recovered when the Iotian crime syndicate payments were finally delivered to the Federation a few years after the end of the original five-year mission of the U.S.S. Enterprise.

 

[dahj]

Everything is dark, bleak and depressive. No light, no colours.

Wait till you hear the official theme song:

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[KirkusOveractus]

My working theory is that the 4 - year war with the Klingons led to a slow downward spiral in the Federation economy, leading to years of budget cuts and reductions. The economy only recovered when the Iotian crime syndicate payments were finally delivered to the Federation a few years after the end of the original five-year mission of the U.S.S. Enterprise.

The first payment had a note attached to a few loose bills. It said, "And get yourself a little something, too. -Bela"

 

[Jedi_Master]

The first payment had a note attached to a few loose bills. It said, "And get yourself a little something, too. -Bela"

I love this.
We need to see this on film.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I love this.
We need to see this on film.

I remember DC Comics doing something in their "Trial of James T. Kirk" arc of issues, and Bela Oxmyx is called as a witness. It's actually really funny when he recounts how Kirk set up the Federation to collect a cut, and Oxmyx came to deliver it. He also brought McCoy's communicator and tossed it back to him at the hearing. It was really well written.

 

[Amasov]

As I said in the other thread, Discovery would have worked so much better if it had been a decade or two after Voyager.

They could have even tied it into the the war with the Klingons we saw in the future timeline of All Good Things.

My only problem with that is how do you position that in such a way to bring in new viewers who aren't as familiar with Star Trek as the rest of us? Doing a sequel to over 700+ hours of entertainment that a potential audience hasn't seen is a tricky move, in my opinion.

This series looks like it takes place in the Kelvin timeline. While we know that's not where it's set, it has the production values and aesthetic that maybe someone who saw the last three films would look at it and say, "This looks just like the movies. I want to check this out!"

 

[Mudd]

...it has the production values and aesthetic that maybe someone who saw the last three films would look at it and say, "This looks just like the movies. I want to check this out!"

Yep.

 

[Jesse1066]

My only problem with that is how do you position that in such a way to bring in new viewers who aren't as familiar with Star Trek as the rest of us? Doing a sequel to over 700+ hours of entertainment that a potential audience hasn't seen is a tricky move, in my opinion.

Just because it's after that stuff doesn't mean the previous series are essential to the plot. If it was about a war with the Klingons, for example, the setup for that would all happen within the series. Anyway, DS9 and VOY can be watched on their own just fine, so why couldn't a new series?

 

[Thefallguy]

This trailer got me more excited for the show than the first one did.

But I agree that everything looks a little too dark, grim and joyless. But that seems to be par for the course these days as the pretentious trend in movies and television. Heaven forbid entertainment actually be fun.

Kor

Space is disease and danger wrapped in darkness and silence.
- McCoy -

 

[mos6507]

Captain, there's another ship coming in. it's the USS Favorite Character!

Yeah, if you want to get that out of your system, play Star Trek: Online.

 

[fireproof78]

I remember DC Comics doing something in their "Trial of James T. Kirk" arc of issues, and Bela Oxmyx is called as a witness. It's actually really funny when he recounts how Kirk set up the Federation to collect a cut, and Oxmyx came to deliver it. He also brought McCoy's communicator and tossed it back to him at the hearing. It was really well written.

One of the best comics. I personally prefer Leonard James Akaar, but Oxmyx was great too.

 

[mos6507]

Doing a sequel to over 700+ hours of entertainment that a potential audience hasn't seen is a tricky move, in my opinion.

IMHO, everyone, even youngsters, have seen plenty of Trek. Even if they aren't fans, they've been exposed to it in some shape or form. It's just embedded in pop-culture. It would be this way even if the Kelvin films hadn't existed.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

Trailer related, albeit the first one: went to see Dunkirk this past Friday, and the first DSC trailer played before the theatrical trailers! Standard screen, but still looked amazing!

 

[Jayson1]

For some reason I just don't find the war with the Klingons as interesting a concept as the Romulan War. This is one example of were I think the Klingons being different might help because it might make the conflict feel different from past conflicts with them.

I also think if they do this I want a war story that is more than just spaceships shooting at each other. We have seen plenty of that in Trek and I think DS9 covered that concept pretty well.

Also how much of this show do you think will be stuff taking place off the ship or ships? I wouldn't mind a "Stargate" or even "TOS" aproach were sometimes you might barely even see stuff taking place on a ship in a episode. To me that is were more scope can have advantage just as much as trying to create new and weird looking planets.

Jason