But it's all about the Sushi
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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I was referring to SL's description. He's the official source for Axanot News, you know.
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Since they've developed and shot two Trek movies as well as developed and shot at least half of a new season of a new series in the amount of time it's taken Alec to shoot 23 minutes of Youtube, it checks out.
In the panel when Hertzler's character says, "Someone get Takeshi to sickbay!" I thought for a second he said, "Some get the sushi to sickbay!"
Not impressed with the writing in that comic. Don't strive for coolness. Strive for excellence. Figure out the story, the point of view, and the best way to tell it. If that is the best way to tell that story, there's no story. At least not one we've heard countless times before. If you're going to tell us how scrappy the Ajax is, bloody it's nose first. Let it beat the odds against two Klingon battle cruisers after being hurt. It coming in with a knockout punch removes any future tension in which it may be at risk. We know it's going to win now, so what's the big deal, and why should I care?
While I have no wish to defend the behavior of Alec Peters, I must say that your comparison is silly. Even with all the crowdfunding money behind them, the efforts of a handful of people is nothing compared to the combined resources and thousands of trained professionals that make up CBS and Paramount. Compared to that, Axanar is just a couple of idiots with some pocket change reenacting scenes from Be Kind Rewind.
Others in the fanfilm community were able to make more with less than Peters.
Peters also labeled himself as a professional making a professional Star Trek film. @Squiggy is only comparing Peters to his own words.
Even though they constantly claimed to the contrary? I mean, the comparison isn't as silly when they invited it themselves.
Edit: Ninja'd but @Professor Zoom and put much better. Thank you
Seems like talking about them's a more useful discussion.
Of course. Complaining about the low magic content of Lucky Charms is silly too, even though the commercials continue to claim that they're "magically delicious".
This comparison is not silly; Star Trek Continues did 11 full length episodes for less than half of the money that AP raised. Not only that, STC delivered the episodes on time; just like they promised and STC never changed the goal post; something that AP consistently did.
Fine. It's been how many years?
If we just go with the 3 years since Prelude was released:
Continues: 5 episodes with another 3 in pre
Phase 2: 2 episodes with another one in pre
Horizon: Full movie, more views than Prelude in a fraction of the time.
Renegades: Full movie, and scrubbed of infringing IP.
And so on...
One is an advertisement, with certain expectations built in (and lawsuits to boot about such claims. See the Pepsi commercial debacle with a Harrier).Seems like talking about them's a more useful discussion.
Of course. Complaining about the low magic content of Lucky Charms is silly too, even though the commercials continue to claim that they're "magically delicious".
The other is a pitch for a specific production with certain values. Also, as others have listed that other productions have moved forward, while the claims of Axanar go unfulfilled.
If only this thread wasn't about Axanar....
I never said it had to be in this thread.
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/lessons-to-be-learned-from-successful-fan-productions.288706/
I'm sure it would just be a slow drip.
Don't hurt me..don't hurt me...They're both seals, 'k???
But..but...the Axanar production was (supposedly) filled with professionals. Alec Peters himself claimed for a year it was the "First independent Star Trek production" - was he lying?
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Nope.
He was using the "professional production" hype to separate himself from other fan films, and to raise money for a "professional" for-profit studio, on intellectual property that he had no license to use. He insisted that it was not a fan film right up until the time he was sued for copyright infringement.
You can try to change the narrative, but you can't change history. Or court documents. You can't change those either.
AP DID separate himself from most other fans films . . . he didn't produce shit!! 
(Prelude was an advert to get people to give him more money and the Vulcan scene was to keep people off of his back for not producing the movie; and to raise more money) Speaking of "Prelude"; I'm I the only one NOT impressed with this green-screen / CGI production?
(Prelude was an advert to get people to give him more money and the Vulcan scene was to keep people off of his back for not producing the movie; and to raise more money) Speaking of "Prelude"; I'm I the only one NOT impressed with this green-screen / CGI production?
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