OK no born queen at the time of first contact by Q doing but contact was made in 2150's by enterprise with Captain Archer it have been changing by the time of Q forcing Captain Picard to meet with the Borg as a way to make it clear that you can't resist them and doing this they changed into and class hive like bee's or they may have been that way to start with a Queen had control over a limited number of cubes and the mother Queen control all the lower Queens
Why is there resistance to the idea of Starfleet being military?
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When she tells Picard she was there, he's like "yoou were thaaaa" like he had a memory that he never thought of before coming to the surface. It's because the Queen is doing what Bill & Ted did. Once they resolved to travel back to the past for something, it's already happened. Picard says "But how can that be?" And she replies "You think in such 3 dimensional terms."
The fourth dimension is time...
P.S. to the people saying they didn't need Picard as a spokesperson; that was hardly the only reason. I would think his knowledge and experience was their largest benefit.
What, you think she TIME TRAVELED back to the cube? in BOBW? Why the fuck would she do that? I mean, yeah, it's no more ridiculous than MOST of the things the Borg Queen does on the show, but what the hell would she accomplish by traveling back to Wolf 359 just to give Locutus a hand job?
It does create some interesting questions as to whether the Borg were knowingly fulfilling a predestination paradox, especially given her appearance in Picards dream right at the very beginning of the film. This becomes even more of a possibility when you factor in the books later revelation of the Borg origin. It's a very possible interpretation, from dialogue, and in particular when you look at whether the Borg got any kind of signal out prior to the navigational deflector arrays destruction....all of which fits in nicely with later things like the Hansens and the ENT episode.
Yeah... I'm just gonna go with the movieverse being a parallel continuity. I kind of already do that with Doctor Who and Macross, and the Marvel Universe movies are independent of their animated series and comics too, so doing the same with Star Trek will probably annoy me far less.
For me, i believe starfleet is not a military as it does not classify itself as one. It does handle self defence and policing of the federation but its main mandate is exploration and discovering new worlds. For example the east india trading company hired mercenaries while conducting business in india, in many ways they where as armed as the british empires military and they where an army but they where not the millitary because the british empire did not declare them so.
Lets say a country does not have a military but instead has just a police force that is as well equipped and trained as any millitary and are capable of defending the country from external threats. However despite being able to handle the responsibilities of the states military that police force is not the states millitary because their mandate is police duties and the other national defencse stuff is an add on. So the state decides what it considers to be the millitary. So if starfleet is considered by the federation as mainly an organisation for exploration with the military aspects coming second, then its not part of the military.
M final example is this, lets say a state only has an army and that what will be considered the navy and the airforce in other countries are merely just divisions in the army. Like there is no navy just the naval regiment delta in the 4th Army division, there is no airforce just the Air brigade Regiment in the 2nd army division.
No matter how much you argue about this country having a navy and airforce they will tell you that they dont its all part of the army and they have army departments that deal with those areas, meaning that those fighter pilots and ship crewmen will consider themselves soldiers and army men no matter what you say because the state has declared they are in the army end of story.
So with regards to starfleet i wont deny that they are n ot responsible for the federations defence but as far as the federation is concerned they are not the military they are an exploratory organisation that are capable of defending the nation when they need to but its not why they where created. While the klingons, cadarssians and romulans clearly have a state millitary with the mandate of conquest and self defence.
Congratulations, they have a military.
It doesn't make any difference that Japan refers to their military as "special civil servants," Japan has a military.
Costa Rica calls their small military a special police unit, still a military.
Quacking duck.
The Borg could have many queens that controls different areas of space then you could have the queen of the others queen that would work with a hive type of behavior and time is how you see it and others could see it differently
Nope its a special police unit. Not a military, being armed like a military does not make one or it the military.
You are small, you think small. We are Borg
... said the Queen as she stroked Picard's locutus.
Japan has a military forces but are not allowed to live there territorial because do do so is act of war as agree in treaty at the end of World War 2 please check the treaty and see
Japan military is not allowed to go outside of it territorial to do so is act of war
I wish the UK, USSR/Russia and USA had the same rules....
It would be good if all nations was that wayI wish the UK, USSR/Russia and USA had the same rules....
Being armed like a military doesn't make it a military, fulfilling the role of the military makes it a military.
Act of war against whom?
Actual question, against whom?
The Japanese Navy regularly leaves Japanese territory for exercises. Japanese self defense forces were deployed to Mozambique in 1993, East Timor 2002 - 2004, Iraq 2004 - 2006, Nepal 2007 - 2011, in South Sudan from late last year until the present.
That would make it hard for the US to protect it's allies, wouldn't it?I wish the UK, USSR/Russia and USA had the same rules....
So if the naval duties where carried out by the army and not a navy, then it makes the ships staff naval officers and not soldiers? Nope they are army and considered soldiers. The us marine corp might have the structure and fight luke the army but guess what, they are part of the navy not the army and therefore technically not soldiers, thst tern us reserved for the army.
The military is what a state determines that it is. It doesnt matter if its a well armed police force that can also defend the ppl, the state decides what their military is. If they determine its a guy with a club then its that guy if they decide its not their well armed police then its not.
I think Starfleet's more like the United Earth Space Probe Agency than the Star Service, and absolutely nothing like Space Central.
that was medical units and military units to protect the medical units with special permission from the United Nations with units of the security Council military. The peace treaty of 1945 only allowed the Japanese Military too be active in their territory if they were outside of their territory by treaty of 1945 it war be an act of war. The United Nations in the 1980's stated that any nation that turned control of any military units over to UN control could be used as the UN wanted to
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