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Box office downturn expected to continue

I have been looking at online articles/blogs. A few ideas to lure customers into theaters:

IMAX

3D

Moving chairs

Smell-o-vision

Smoke

Wind

Water sprays

soap bubbles

fogs

snows

Moving chairs-experienced that once at a natural history museum. A dinosaur video while being slammed about in a jerking chair.

Smell-o-vision. Old idea that has been tried. Idea is to pipe particular odors to individual seats. You need good ventilation as the odors accumulate/merge.

Combining 3D with physical effects has been called 4D.
 
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The ticket cost doesn't bother me too much, only because the theaters have to pay huge sums of money for licensing the movie and customers who don't like the movie can't get a refund.

Do people really believe reviews and go anyway or do they see what they want despite others seeing it? I've never cared if movie X raked in Y number of tickets sold in Z period of time. It's a false equivalence, often proved by people bickering about what they didn't like about it.

I agree with Push The Button above, the bar is high for seeing a flick and if the best the flick can do is to carbon copy Star Wars A New Hope, all the whiz-bang thrown in isn't going to be as exciting, especially if the plot becomes so predictable -- yes, we know they had to play it safe. The fact Han has to go "Another death star?" (in other words, breaking the fourth wall but not grinning the way Stanley Roper would, only shows the writers are insulting the audience and possibly laughing while doing so. Then again, I don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes so it's unfair to the writers to say that.)

Imax can be cool, but it can become overwhelming. The cost makes sense given the time and effort to make the specialized films.

"Annoying people" - it's funny we're in a society that lets moviegoers be antisocial since everyone blames the ushers trying to remind everyone to be quiet for the consideration of all in the room for causing any ruckus. Assuming theaters still hire such jobs, apparently people pay attention to the big projected sign that reminds them of what they don't do with their cellphones, etc, after (literally) 20 minutes of previews and big diamond rings and cars they're never going to care about. But raise the price of foodstuffs 5x and the previews and adverts aren't needed. Or movie leasing costs can come down but is that ever going to happen?

Yet Jax's point is equally good, Hollywood is indeed relying more on hollow spectacle and whiz-bang, and the CGI rendering costs are not cheap. There has been a shift in how movies are made with content and pacing, relying more on rapid pacing and special effects to try to cover up (an increased amount of) plot imperfections. Which is reasonable to an extent, the time involved to write and fix scripts can be considerable and there's not been a bulletproof script in decades, if ever. But now it does feel almost like laziness. And while the industry has always put out classics and clunkers, these days it does feel as if everything has to be ramped up.
 
From my list, I would say that IMAX is impressive.

Of the other items I have tried, I will say that 3D never seemed like depth perception in real life, making it a distraction-and who really wants to wear those glasses?

The jerking chair thing is annoying.

I am very skeptical about the other gimmicks listed. Yeah, who really wants stuff thrown in your face?
 
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I can imagine art houses surviving, being located in an old building (the construction of which was paid for years ago), showing older material (the production of which was paid for years ago).

Ideas such as recliners, food, and beer would seem to go well with art houses.

So I imagine art houses persisting as a niche thing.
 
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I have looked at a number of web sites regarding the future of movies. Besides gimmicks intended to get people into movie theaters, one comment stands out-that with movie franchises, movie studios have begun to resemble television studios.

Perhaps direct to DVD was a hint about the future. Perhaps the line between movies and television will become quite blurry.

And having looked at threads about dead malls, one has to wonder about the attrition of venues.
 
In Fort Worth during the 90s, I went to a theater that was perfect..dinner/drinks..tables, Cry room (for the folks with infants/toddlers) kids room (if they got bored of the film) with coin operated video games and cartoons...done with class...when the big multiplex opened up nearby..that fancy theater closed, and my long decline in viewership began...Now I'll see a Star Trek or Star Wars film and that's about all I'm willing to see..

If that theater experience could be replicated with the modern screen/sound systems and with the volume at a level where quiet conversation could be held, I'd start going back...
 
I have been looking at online articles/blogs. A few ideas to lure customers into theaters:

IMAX

3D

Moving chairs

Smell-o-vision

Smoke

Wind

Water sprays

soap bubbles

fogs

snows

Moving chairs-experienced that once at a natural history museum. A dinosaur video while being slammed about in a jerking chair.

Smell-o-vision. Old idea that has been tried. Idea is to pipe particular odors to individual seats. You need good ventilation as the odors accumulate/merge.

Combining 3D with physical effects has been called 4D.

Strikes me as a list primarily designed to drive people away. I already hate 3d and wind up actively skipping movies that don't make it easy to find a 2d showing. IMAX in and of itself is fine, but not usually worth the extra cost. Everything else on that list is a cheap theme park gimmick that will actively ruin the movie-going experience. The only reason I go to theaters at all is because I like that environment - the big open space, the surrounding darkness. It allows you to get lost in a story in a way that's hard to do sitting on your couch at home. So if they start actively distracting me by blowing smoke in my face and jerking my chair around, why would I ever go again?
 
Strikes me as a list primarily designed to drive people away. I already hate 3d and wind up actively skipping movies that don't make it easy to find a 2d showing.

That's my main beef with these multiplexes. All those gimmicks are used to inflate the prices. People would likely go more often if the prices were more reasonable. And the seats aren't even all that comfortable and not worth the premium. The fact that 2D showings are slim chances anymore sucks even more when the multiplex is the only theatre available, which was the case for us for many years. When that's the case, one simply can't shrug and say, "Oh well, let's go elsewhere." Which is why I'm so happy we finally got an indepedent theatre again. Really nice when one actually has choice.

can imagine art houses surviving, being located in an old building (the construction of which was paid for years ago), showing older material (the production of which was paid for years ago).

In the case of ours, it's in a former theatre which itself is in a rundown mall, which itself is having trouble attracting shoppers to the downtown core. Right now, it's just about the only guiding light in that mall. I kind of worry about its future because of that, as the previous theatre said the location wasn't sustainable and left the city, despite the fact that it was very popular with the community.
 
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And the seats aren't even all that comfortable and not worth the premium.

Comfortable seats are one of the few perks for which I'm happy to pay a little extra. They have some really nice reclining leather seats at the better theatres these days.
 
At the moment my nearest city Nottingham has got one multiplex, but a floor of the broadmarsh shopping center has been cleared so they can put in another multiple.
which surprised me because even though Broadmarsh is dying I have never seen the other multiplex full.
 
I don't really go the movies much these days. Maybe once or twice a year (and there have been years where I didn't go at all). A lot of it has to do with pretty much all of my local theatres closing down and the nearest one being not that really near at all. So when I do go to a movie, it's sort of a special rare event.

But I've never paid more than $6.50 for a movie ticket, largely because I go a mall theatre and catch the 2D showings. If I catch the early matinee there, it's only $5.00 then.
 
Comfortable seats are one of the few perks for which I'm happy to pay a little extra. They have some really nice reclining leather seats at the better theatres these days.


Yeah, those are so great! And I agree, I'd much rather pay for those. It's what our independent theatre has and I find myself going there more often than the multiplex.

But the Multiplex doesn't really offer all that much value for what you pay for. The seats there are only so-so.
 
We have an Alamo Drafthouse here with reserved seating. The only downside is the horrible preshows but with the reserved seating no need to get there early and stand in line anymore so we no longer have to endure that.

We also have a Carmike cineplex with 3D & jumbo digital screens and stadium seating. Not bad for this little town...When given a choice though we normally opt for Alamo.

And I need to reserve seats for Wonder Woman....
 
I want to go back to Art House theaters. I think that they are in greater danger than the big chain megaplexes is because by going direct to DVD or Streaming video, would open them to a much larger audience in small towns that don'the have these small theaters. Just an example, the small town my parent came from had only one theater, to get to a small theater showing small movies or limited release movies is by traveling the 1.5 hour drive to San Antonio, or the back roads to Austin.

Being able to do a type of wide release these movies can reach audiences that they wouldn't reach otherwise.
 
We have an Alamo Drafthouse here with reserved seating. The only downside is the horrible preshows but with the reserved seating no need to get there early and stand in line anymore so we no longer have to endure that.

Ah yes, reserved seating. I meant to comment on that. At first I was a little annoyed by the idea, but now I love it. I definitely prefer to go to theaters with reserved seating. I mean, if I'm going to the movies as a special event that I don't get to do often, I want to make sure I have the best seats possible. I try to buy as far ahead of time as I can so that I get to sit right in the middle of the theater. If you're the type that decides to see a movie last minute I can see how this would suck, but I can't honestly say I've ever done that, I usually know at least the day before, and that's about as much time as you need to pick good seats.
 
Yeah, I'm very happy with reserved seating. I remember having to show up an hour early just to get in line, and even that was no guarantee of great seats. Now I can show up just before the movie starts and skip the advertisements.
 
I wish it was award season all year round. I love movies like Arrival, and Hidden Figures and The Martian. I have no interest to see films like Pirates 5 or Alien Covenant.
 
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