That is a shame. Your positive and non-judgemental outlook will be missed.
Best CBS stop production now.
The New Klingons
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That is a shame. Your positive and non-judgemental outlook will be missed.
Best CBS stop production now.
There is no show. It's all just a front for Abrams to funnel money in to his "Cloverfield" remake, using Star Trek characters.That is a shame. Your positive and non-judgemental outlook will be missed.
Best CBS stop production now.
Best CBS stop production now.
Absolutely. I have been watching the last 4 seasons of DS9 on Hulu lately, and I am reminded of what the pinnacle of the Star Trek series looked like. Good acting. Good writing. Real Klingons. I do think it would be better for CBS not to produce this show at all. It's that bad.
Certainly i'd agree Kor had no real agency once the Organians figure what was up, but Kirk hardly had any say in the outcome either. All his running around and daring-do was for not. The Organians were in control the whole time. The futility and insanity of war, and all that.
I just don't agree that Kor was "one dimensional" as a character. Anymore than Kang or Koloth. In fact, i'd say of the three Koloth is the guy who comes off the most one dimensional, just out to be an intergalactic asshole. Kor was killing civilians, yes, but he saw it as a duty to the Empire to see to it that the Klingon species survive and stay strong. He even admitted many of their methods were shrewd, rough around the edges. And, again, it seems motivated by a much bigger picture of intergalactic politics between The Federation and the Klingons that we only ever get that little peak at via Kirk and Kor's brief impassioned exchanges over things like "disputed territories" and "cutting off vital supplies, crushing our trade. You've been asking for war!"
Kor doesn't come off totally unjustified in his behavior, from his perspective. He admits respect for his adversaries. He doesn't threaten Kirk in the way that a TNG era Klingon would have. He let's Kirk think it over. He tries a more even handed, reasonable approach. Which, even if that is merely an attempt to use what he see's as "weak Federation diplomacy" against the Federation, it still shows far more nuance and depth of thought than later Klingons. Who literally seemed to be unable to control their temper for five minutes. And everything seemed to be an offense to honor, and could get you killed.
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There is no show. It's all just a front for Abrams to funnel money in to his "Cloverfield" remake, using Star Trek characters.
I could live with that
Where is the bad acting and bad writing on Star Trek Discovery? Have you got your hands on one episodes?
My post you quoted was siting DS9 as having good writing but made no reference to writing on STD. One could always project I supposed though if the production looks that bad.
DS9 had some of the most inconsistent and bad acting in the whole franchise tbh.
I think it had some of the very best actors in the franchise. Avery Brooks topped the list.
That is why I said inconsistent. It certainly had some good acting. When it was good, it was good, but when it was bad, it was awful.
It had some great moments, but, yeah, bad was just awful. Often times, they leaned heavily on characterchures to provide filler.That is why I said inconsistent. It certainly had some good acting. When it was good, it was good, but when it was bad, it was awful.
You said DS9 good writing and acting and ended with Discovery is bad. That made it seem like you are saying writing and acting is bad.
So what are you basing the notion that Discovery is bad on?
DS9 is awesome. The characters were actual people, unlike TNG where everyone was so "prefect".
Plus DS9 did more actual exploring and events had consequences. TNG didn't really accomplish much except butcher Shakespeare for all he was worth.
Truth!
The preview of the acting in the STD trailer is definitely bad.
While we get virtually nothing in the way of writing, one thing I will say is the whole "your tongue is too human to learn Vulcan" line is pointing to a rehash of Spock's struggles with his human side. Not very original writing. I don't have high hopes.
It is a 90 second collection of clips out of context and out of sequence. There is no basis to judge the writing, acting or anything except the general look of the show.
If that is enough for you to think you know what the show is like, then there is no point in ever watching it.
The purpose of a trailer is to give you the best possible glimpse into all of those things. There would be no point to a trailer otherwise. The trailer is a big fail.
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