There was nothing barely about it at all. It's a "we all know they're going to totally make it, but let's try to pretend it's questionable" kind of thing. It was really trying, as in trying my patience!
The Star Wars problem
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It's not if they make it or not, it's what it looks like when the do. The motion of the scene is appealing.
And the plot (or lack of it) just ruins the rest of it
Ok, that's a little pedantic but TFA was little better than "mediocre" for me, at least in terms of storytelling.
To me this seems similar to disliking talkies or color film. Things change and improve. TFA took two steps back but Rogue One took cutting Edge CG and used it to its full effect. The CG in Rogue One was also much less cartoonishly lit than in TFA.
The Rogue One Star Destroyers looked 100% real in the majority of shots.
And the plot (or lack of it) just ruins the rest of it
Ok, that's a little pedantic but TFA was little better than "mediocre" for me, at least in terms of storytelling.
Admit it, you wanted to hear more about the Trade Federation's post-ROTJ fate.
Haven't seen R1 yet, but the visuals of TFA were quite appealing. Some of the crazy super flying action camera work was a bit out of hand; overall from a visual medium it was far more stable than ROTJ
How is this even remotely the same? Both color and sound are realistic. You don't need to suspend disbelief to swallow them.
Crazy gravity-defying CGI camera movements on the other hand are not realistic.
Your insistence on defending the prequels seems like a pretty bizarre hill to die on when you apply the attitude to just about every single possible criticism.
Wait until you see Rogue One. Gareth Edwards has made his name on SFX and for my money the CG of R1 looks 5-10 years more advanced than TFA.
In what way are they less realistic than incendental limitations of practical effects?
Hell, ANH is partially famous for the Dykstra-flex, which allowed for a computer controlled camera for more dynamic and "crazy gravity defying" shots.
And the plot (or lack of it) just ruins the rest of it
Ok, that's a little pedantic but TFA was little better than "mediocre" for me, at least in terms of storytelling.
Well the fact that several elements of TFA were a rehash of ANH don't exactly help the film.
My forthcoming novel explains it all.
R2 and C3P0 did a few rounds of seed funding from Alderaan VC firms, initiated a hostile takeover and expelled the surviving Niemodians. The profit margins were more than enough to fund the early days of the Rebel Alliance.
Shareholder growth and further market penetration allowed the Resistance to be on financially stable footings, but when Incom and Siener staged a revolt on the Coruscant exchange, share prices for the Federation plummeted, Luke went into exile and R2 went into hibernation, only waking up when the price of Lemon Soaked Napkins started to turn a profit.
I like TFA for the characters. Story beats being similar would have to mean I need to negate TWOK, Nemesis, The Lion King, etc, due to similarities with older material.
TFA was different enough in the story to set up the world, and leave a lot of questions unanswered that kept me engaged.
TFA was different enough in the story to set up the world, and leave a lot of questions unanswered that kept me engaged.
I think that's a false equivalence. Those movies would be a good comparison if you were comparing about how much TPM borrowed from ANH.
But TFA is almost the same film. It's a failure of imagination on an unprecedented level for a blockbuster, and that's saying something.
I guess we watched different films. 
Except it was fun to watch, had characters people liked and cared about and wasn't painful to watch like the prequels.
Solid win in my book.
This all applies to the PT though.
Shockingly, you will find that many will disagree there. I didn't give a shit about any of the characters in the awful prequel trilogy.
I'm sorry to hear that. Maybe one day you'll open your heart.
Shinzon4u, you're never going to convince anyone in this thread that the Prequel Trilogy is worth a thing that didn't already think so. People tend to form their own opinions by actually watching the films. So if that's what you're trying to do with this thread, you might want to reconsider.
By all means, continue to enjoy them yourself though.
By all means, continue to enjoy them yourself though.
My last post was not entirely sincere. Still, people like Plinkett show that people can be made to change their minds.
You're going to find that appreciation of the PT (or not) depends greatly on your point of view.
