My guess is an off-brand knock off of James Cawley's Original Series set tour.
CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Yeah, go for it. And expect another law suit if you do.
Given that Ms. Kingsbury is still supposed to be in charge of fulfillment, and the patches were shipped to Georgia (which is silly; why not just stick postage on them and mail them out instead of taking up space in a more expensive rental truck and/or have to rent a larger truck to haul all that stuff across the continent?), well, how the hell can she possibly send any of them out? I get it if she doesn't want to leave LA, but then, you know, here in the real world, if you have a job which requires that you physically be in a particular place and you cannot be in the correct physical location for that job, guess what happens?Well, you know that's right.
And aside from that I'm still having all these questions about industries studio.
If I remembering correctly about what @carlosp's found document registering it, was it in Nevada, industry studios is registered or owned or some legal something to the defendant. (I may be remembering it wrong, so there's that)
I've not seen anything documenting a change in ownership on that studio. And (I'm just guessing here) if something is legally registered to some 'one'.... it can't just be handed over even in lieu of stuff in exchange for monies due without some legal something written up and legally filed.
So I 'get' that the build-out would be an acceptable 'compensation' to landlordDanny in exchange for being let out of the lease. With no documentation needed.
What I'm still questioning is that the registered industry studios has been legally transferred from the defendant to landlordDanny. And that the defendant and bawden are really out of it at all.
And at this time I'm drawing a line between -- the defendant having not relocated to Georgia (at least yet) and -- these 'some' production personnel who are going to be on-site management and -- no documentation that I've seen showing and actual transfer of the studio to landlordDanny -- and for some reason that green screen -- and where is that editing bay is currently located -- and what Ms. Kingsbury is doing for Rocketworx, and quite possibly, at least to me, industry studios too.
Why would production personnel be on-site management? Who in this production is trained in on-site management? What does on-site management do? Are they being paid? Why would they do this if they aren't being paid? Why are they doing this for landlordDanny if they aren't being paid? Why would landlordDanny have unpaid on-site management personnel from a production company that isn't there anymore doing this? This man is a business man. Which by definition is doing business to make money.
The production company has now had two years to show the personnel is not adept at bringing in fan film productions to cover the rent much less make money. Nor any other type filming. Why would landlordDanny choose them? And is 'he' paying them?
I consider it all of it to be suspect at this time.
I continue speculate until I learn something different, this is a Plan. And the Plan includes an industries studios partnership between (at least) the defendant, bawden, and landlordDanny. landlordDanny provides the physical property he inherited because they couldn't pay the astronomical rent. The defendant retains at least partial ownership in industry studios. And bawden will be bring in clients.
You lose that job.
The landlord of course owns the premises and always has. He probably provided lease forgiveness and the ability to break and leave without paying anything else, in exchange for any fixtures left on the premises. He doesn't need Bawden to bring in clients, as Bawden doesn't even live in LA (he's in Iowa, IIRC) and isn't necessarily in the business of bringing in paid clients to a studio. Bawden is a PR professional, and AP's use of him notwithstanding, Mr. Bawden does not have to be hired to do that job. The landlord has an array of more seasoned and local professionals to choose from in the greater LA area, seeing as films and studios are the main industry there.
Mr. Burnett can, of course, rent an editing bay in a lot of other places in the greater LA area. Again, that is a part of the area's industry, just like auto manufacturers were in Detroit. I think for Mr. Burnett it's less of a place to edit than it is a place to store all of his possessions. Well, that's what paid storage is for.
So - weirdness on top of weirdness, illogic on top of illogic.
Watch the ace in Three-Card Monte. Watch the ace.
Another term would be: Wash Rinse and Recycle
Love the fact that he says 30 guys and there are 15 in the pic.........just sayin'While Axanar may be close to death, LFIM's bloviating is not (the retort here is great - took the respondent's name/profile pic out).
He is. I can't put my finger on it, but something is most certainly going on. Nothing really adds up - Industry Studios still seems unresolved, sets fully constructed in the Georgia warehouse, an eagerness to get the latest studio name up and running, dropping all the extra content promised (though that's likely down to not having anyone to produce it for them) and a few other things...
....somethings going on. There's a weird vibe coming from that camp and this new burst of egomania, which brings me to his latest outpouring....
While Axanar may be close to death, LFIM's bloviating is not (the retort here is great - took the respondent's name/profile pic out).
....look at this. Seriously. We have a serial failure and potential con man continuously bashing and berating @carlosp to a somewhat psychotic degree of tenacity which always deflects from the victim's actual achievements - including the very large deal going on in his professional life right now.
The focus and the attention he gives to Carlos - not just here but in the way he trains his followers to hate him for everything - is relentlessly bitter to the extreme. This outburst, specifically targeted to him is very telling of his insecurities and need to bury his biggest threat, but if you follow his pattern of behaviour, he only goes this far when he's up to something and ready to prove he's 'better' (HA!) than the one he envies.
Nuttier than a fucking fruitcake this one.
Unless he's a master at playing shell games and/or there are enough gullible people out there to help keep a roof over his head and such, I'd think that at some point, the money would run out and he'd start to run into some very practical problems.........
It is my firm but humble hope...........
Each one has a slightly smaller guy standing right behind them
Buhahahaha!
Sort of like human matryoshka dolls.
Fans, I think, are relentlessly selfish about one thing: it has to be on-screen canon to be top tier. Sure there are books but that's a much smaller segment. Axanar as created by this group is not canon, and never will be. I don't see their ersatz bridge becoming a tourist venue. Alec could goose it with his prop collection but its way out of town.
That would be money that somehow leaked out of the project, if such a thing happened.
Released "Books" were made for the fundraiser incomes/outflows but not apparently for other funds.
Without accounting-level details (receipts etc consistently kept) there could be lots of leakage in the accounted funds, for example "hundreds of thousands spent on sets". Really? And salaries "paid back" -- good luck getting specifics on that.
With no publicly released accounting details for the other funds, only the IRS or a lawsuit can really force the issue it seems.
Universe to ego: you are a subset. A miniscule... A very small piece.
The rest are reinstalling the carpet.
I think that being sued by the studios has created mindshare for Axanar among enough fans that Axanar and its leadership will forever be under the shadow of discommendation. This will probably cap donorship.
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So, yeah, looks like the fan group behind 'First Frontier' is playing to Alec's ego - and they get a Bridge and a Captain's Quarters set to use for their production. I'm sure this association will go well for the folks at 'First Frontier' (in the same way it's gone for every other fan film group he's been associated with) in that:
As long as they stroke Alec Peters ego, he'll be supportive; but as soon as they either dismiss a suggestion, or worse, don't paint him as God's gift to Star Trek fandom...watch out!
As long as they stroke Alec Peters ego, he'll be supportive; but as soon as they either dismiss a suggestion, or worse, don't paint him as God's gift to Star Trek fandom...watch out!
Yep, the accounting on that $1.4+m is pretty nebulous, who knows how much could still be hidden in one on Peters' shell companies. People laughed at Peters paying too much for the
As long as they stroke Alec Peters ego, he'll be supportive; but as soon as they either dismiss a suggestion, or worse, don't paint him as God's gift to Star Trek fandom...watch out!
Who knows whether such a large and obvious expense is manipulated. Literally, who knows? Only a summary was released and a "Panel of trustworthy loyalists who are not accountants" is put forward to vouch.
But one can plainly see that every donor dollar of 'free' storage for PropWorx is a dollar that might reemerge at some point out of that company to benefit its owner. Every donor dollar spent providing free professional facilities for Axanar staff is a dollar that finds it way into the staffers' personal bottom line. Every dollar spent on 'salary' and 'business' perks was a dollar the recipient did not need to fund for their personal life. Seeing leakage makes one imagine it is not uncommon.
Released 'books' were laughable. If the aim is o provide legitimacy and calm the doubters, surely you'd want to do more than bullet point everything and give, you know.... actual information.
And yeah, I'm still here because I want to know what happened with that money that was clearly ignored - and still is ignored - all those cash in hand and app donations at conventions. If one of Peters' minions is following this, I know someone who wants his money back... especially since it wasn't accounted for and ignored by eh man who clearly must have stuck it in his pocket
Or milking him for every penny he's got. Or, well... doesn't have? Stupid alliance to make regardless. considering who he's alienated within the fan film community, the mans toxic.
Thought they had sets of their own already...........bridge, transporter room, and some others.So, yeah, looks like the fan group behind 'First Frontier' is playing to Alec's ego - and they get a Bridge and a Captain's Quarters set to use for their production. I'm sure this association will go well for the folks at 'First Frontier' (in the same way it's gone for every other fan film group he's been associated with) in that:
As long as they stroke Alec Peters ego, he'll be supportive; but as soon as they either dismiss a suggestion, or worse, don't paint him as God's gift to Star Trek fandom...watch out!
From the Pick A Lane files:
http://fanfilmfactor.com/2017/05/08/axanar-gets-a-corporate-sponsor-and-a-name-for-its-new-studio/
http://fanfilmfactor.com/2017/05/08/axanar-gets-a-corporate-sponsor-and-a-name-for-its-new-studio/
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