Fox has recently found success with R rated comic book movies like Logan and Deadpool, so that got me wondering, should Paramount make an R rated Star Trek film?
Should there be an R rated Star Trek film?
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Of course, if there's a story that genuinely requires an R rating to do the idea justice, it should of course not be shied away from. But really, I don't imagine how one could justify an R rated Star Trek. What needs to be done that can't be done for a lower rating? Nothing in fifty years of Star trek has ever been anything more than PG-13 fare, even the novels never tread to R rated territory and they very easily could if they wanted to.
Besides, at this point, Paramount needs Star Trek movies to make money, and an R rated film does limit the audience. Deadpool and Logan got away with it because superhero movies are more or less a slam dunk these days, with rare exceptions like Josh Trank's Not-So-Fantastic Four or Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man films (moreso the second one). Even then, Deadpool was a bit of a gamble that luckily paid off.
Besides, at this point, Paramount needs Star Trek movies to make money, and an R rated film does limit the audience. Deadpool and Logan got away with it because superhero movies are more or less a slam dunk these days, with rare exceptions like Josh Trank's Not-So-Fantastic Four or Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man films (moreso the second one). Even then, Deadpool was a bit of a gamble that luckily paid off.
No. Why intentionally limit your audience?
I wouldn't mind a R rated movie but it's proably unnecessary but does anyone really,really believe a R rated movie keeps kids and teenagers out? If someone really wants to see a movie they will find away and I doubt a R rating would make people avoid because it would still be a "Star Trek" movie just like "Logan" and "Deadpool" were still comic book movies.
Jason
Jason
Would (to me) depend on why it was a R, as opposed to a PG-13.
Up the violence? All three of the Abram-universe movies has shown people being blown into space to their obvious deaths, the transport accident in TMP still frightens me. Implied violence is common in Trek movies. Upping this to the point of spraying blood and acts of sadism I feel is un-neceassay. Cutting Geordi's torture scene in GEN (imo) was the right decision.
Up the nudity? Carol posing in her PG-13 knickers was absurd, the cat sisters in bed with Kirk felt more natural and it fit the nuKirk character. Having the sisters be topless, or they (and Kirk?) be fully nude might have been interesting. But would Chris Pine have agreed to the latter?
Up the sex? Having Spock and Uhura engaging in overt sexual activity would add what to the plot? Or would it be just something to add to the trailer like Uhura pulling her top off in ST'09? Zoe Saldana has appear nude before and might not have a problem with doing so in a Trek movie.
Depictions of hard drug use. If I knew ahead of time that the hero characters were going to be doing this, would be reason in itself for me to skip the movie. Drug use by the movies bad guys (or just background characters) could be different.
Up the harsh language? Some language (in America) brings a quick R rating, other words it depends on how they're being used. I associate some words with a lack of class, I want Starfleet to have some class.
Up the violence? All three of the Abram-universe movies has shown people being blown into space to their obvious deaths, the transport accident in TMP still frightens me. Implied violence is common in Trek movies. Upping this to the point of spraying blood and acts of sadism I feel is un-neceassay. Cutting Geordi's torture scene in GEN (imo) was the right decision.
Up the nudity? Carol posing in her PG-13 knickers was absurd, the cat sisters in bed with Kirk felt more natural and it fit the nuKirk character. Having the sisters be topless, or they (and Kirk?) be fully nude might have been interesting. But would Chris Pine have agreed to the latter?
Up the sex? Having Spock and Uhura engaging in overt sexual activity would add what to the plot? Or would it be just something to add to the trailer like Uhura pulling her top off in ST'09? Zoe Saldana has appear nude before and might not have a problem with doing so in a Trek movie.
Depictions of hard drug use. If I knew ahead of time that the hero characters were going to be doing this, would be reason in itself for me to skip the movie. Drug use by the movies bad guys (or just background characters) could be different.
Up the harsh language? Some language (in America) brings a quick R rating, other words it depends on how they're being used. I associate some words with a lack of class, I want Starfleet to have some class.
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So, like me, it's a no then.
The transporter accident in TMP was quite disturbing for how little was shown and that managed a 'U' certificate (the lowest) in the UK. The violence and gore in TWOK I think is about as hard as it's got in the franchise and earned a '15' certificate in the UK on VHS, it was before the advent of the 12 certificate in the UK I believe though. Still, it was pretty graphic for a trek film. There's just no need to go further than this. I'll go and watch 'event horizon' if that's what I crave.
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It wasn't what was shown, it was the sound of that scream.
It was the 'what we got back didn't live long' that always stuck with me. Brundlefly shit!
Nice Fly reference!
There's no need, unless it's to show some seriously nasty rebooted Borg.
And even then, you could show a fair bit of grim shit whilst still maintaining the 12/12A/PG-13 ratings. The higher ratings are usually for more bloody and brutal violence, language, sex and drug use, none of which really has a place in a Trek movie.
Maybe Paramount should just reboot Barbarella instead?
I'm not against Trek taking a darker/more adult tone as long it serves the story, but exessive sex/language is rarely that justifiable.
However I do love how O'Brien's shout of "bollocks" somehow got past American censors (and was somehow rated PG in the UK).
However I do love how O'Brien's shout of "bollocks" somehow got past American censors (and was somehow rated PG in the UK).
Hitchcock himself said he could never put on film anything as scary as a viewers imagination could come up with.
R rated Trek is part of Gene's Vision™
The censors only care about American slang.
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