CBS/Paramount sues to stop Axanar
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Cool. I love reading even mediocre fan-fiction, and FFF's articles are some of the best.Axanar unblocked me on twitter long enough to threaten a new article from Fan Film Factor coming out tomorrow that will supposedly expose the "fake news" from Axamonitor. Set phasers to maximum cognitive dissonance.
You mean the wiki that quotes sources, labels all commentary and theory as such, and makes immediate corrections when errors are found?Axanar unblocked me on twitter long enough to threaten a new article from Fan Film Factor coming out tomorrow that will supposedly expose the "fake news" from Axamonitor. Set phasers to maximum cognitive dissonance.
Obviously fake.
Brilliant. A helpful hand in how to do absolutely nothing for years. "Achieve by not achieving, by Dr Alec Peters (lawyer by training), classes begin at only £38,000 per anum. No refunds."
Axanar unblocked me on twitter long enough to threaten a new article from Fan Film Factor coming out tomorrow that will supposedly expose the "fake news" from Axamonitor. Set phasers to maximum cognitive dissonance.
Well they have a point. Aside from his qualifications, experience, success and his currently filled schedule as his finished film does the festival rounds, what does Carlos really have to offer?
Axanar unblocked me on twitter long enough to threaten a new article from Fan Film Factor coming out tomorrow that will supposedly expose the "fake news" from Axamonitor. Set phasers to maximum cognitive dissonance.
Isn't that what *they* are doing?
...of business.
...Well they have a point. Aside from his qualifications, experience, success and his currently filled schedule as his finished film does the festival rounds, what does Carlos really have to offer?
Class-a-nar?
I know, right. Now what I'm finding in Google University (you know, limited) is = I can set up and say I am a film school. Voila. I have a film school. Don't know if Georgia agrees with Google. They may have their own rules in these matters.
My direct personal experience is my local Parks & Rec had a film school class I attended. People IN the Business would have laughed themselves silly at the level of what I was being taught. But P&R called it a film school class. I enjoyed it.
So there's that.
Yup. There's that part too.
Good question. I'm guessing.... more than we would intellectually expect. Even among those already producing fan films.
There could also be ordinary people who have never done one but who dream.... who would maybe be just looking for any affordable instructions from anyone who knew more than them (zero). And a place to get hands-on practice. I currently see the potential to exploit. The allure of film is intoxicating beyond most of our imaginings. Many many many feel that siren's call. It's magical, throws caution to the wind, makes those in its grip see what we want to see, believe what we want to believe.
My direct personal experience in the business of Hollywood productions & commercials is that what may have happened 'before' - shenanigans, duplicity, lawsuits, mishandling of other people's money, treating people abominably, doing vile things - and I'm not even speaking specifically of the defendant here - I have direct first hand knowledge seeing those things carry no issue at all in 'what I want is what I think you can give me right now' cases.
That's my thinking too. However...... my uneducated self sees potential work-arounds, loop-holes to exploit, if one were clever enough. Determined enough.
Yeah. Myself, I'm in 'watching & gathering data' mode right now.
Indeed! So there's that!
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Axanar unblocked me on twitter long enough to threaten a new article from Fan Film Factor coming out tomorrow that will supposedly expose the "fake news" from Axamonitor. Set phasers to maximum cognitive dissonance.
"Mirror, Mirror"
Axanar unblocked me on twitter long enough to threaten a new article from Fan Film Factor coming out tomorrow that will supposedly expose the "fake news" from Axamonitor. Set phasers to maximum cognitive dissonance.
I have published a correction on AxaMonitor regarding the story I published about Axanar’s new headquarters outside Atlanta.
In an interview published today on Fan Film Factor, Axanar CEO Alec Peters revealed the true location of Axanar’s new facility in Lawrenceville, Georgia, not the Gainesville location I reported on yesterday.
Did I get bamboozled? Yep, I sure did. Comeuppance has been served and I’m ready to eat crow.
That happens sometimes to journalists, and the first thing we’re taught is admit our error. So I’m admitting mine: I fell for a scheme in which these folks, who don’t like to have what they do made public, got together and coordinated an intricate plan to fool me.
And I was fooled, fed false information by sources controlled by Alec Peters.
I apologize to those who’ve come to rely on me as a source of coverage about the Axanar debacle — the crowdfunding that paid for a never-used studio instead of the film fans wanted made, the draconian guidelines now imposed on all fan productions, the supporters who gave tens, hundreds, even thousands of dollars in good faith to a group of people hoping for a really great fan film, getting nothing in return.
Oh, yeah. Some got a few little patches.
Now, Alec Peters — who takes no responsibility for his mismanagement of the money people entrusted to him — instead believes it’s worth his time to conspire to fool a reporter, to lie. Is that really a victory to be proud of?
But remember who else you lied to. You lied to everyone about the details of the warehouse upon which I relied upon for authentication about this story. To “get” me, you had to lie.
I’m sure some of Peters’ supporters are OK with that because they don’t like my coverage either. But if 300 supporters were all he was able to muster from the vaunted 15,000 at his command, I’m guessing a lot more aren’t OK with Peters continuing to publicly deceive them.
So who turns out looking worse in this situation? The reporter who was taken for a ride, or the people who lied to the whole world in order to do it? Yes, Alec Peters, you fooled me. “Big win for Axanar.” But all you proved is you’re willing to lie to score points in some imagined game, placing a higher priority on making a fool of a reporter instead of producing the film you promised your supporters years ago, just as you placed a higher priority on the tremendously expensive studio you just lost than on producing Axanar.
Which is why I’ll continue to cover this story until the day you stop trying to fool people for your own gratification. I’ll certainly be more careful about my sourcing in the future, now that I know the lengths to which you’ll go to hide the truth.
I apologize to my readers for letting them down, for getting caught up in yet another Axanar scheme. What I won’t apologize for is my intent to continue to cover this story. Axanar’s behavior trying to fool a reporter for some cheap laughs and finger-pointing just proves why it’s necessary to continue to shine a light on what they do.
In an interview published today on Fan Film Factor, Axanar CEO Alec Peters revealed the true location of Axanar’s new facility in Lawrenceville, Georgia, not the Gainesville location I reported on yesterday.
Did I get bamboozled? Yep, I sure did. Comeuppance has been served and I’m ready to eat crow.
That happens sometimes to journalists, and the first thing we’re taught is admit our error. So I’m admitting mine: I fell for a scheme in which these folks, who don’t like to have what they do made public, got together and coordinated an intricate plan to fool me.
And I was fooled, fed false information by sources controlled by Alec Peters.
I apologize to those who’ve come to rely on me as a source of coverage about the Axanar debacle — the crowdfunding that paid for a never-used studio instead of the film fans wanted made, the draconian guidelines now imposed on all fan productions, the supporters who gave tens, hundreds, even thousands of dollars in good faith to a group of people hoping for a really great fan film, getting nothing in return.
Oh, yeah. Some got a few little patches.
Now, Alec Peters — who takes no responsibility for his mismanagement of the money people entrusted to him — instead believes it’s worth his time to conspire to fool a reporter, to lie. Is that really a victory to be proud of?
But remember who else you lied to. You lied to everyone about the details of the warehouse upon which I relied upon for authentication about this story. To “get” me, you had to lie.
I’m sure some of Peters’ supporters are OK with that because they don’t like my coverage either. But if 300 supporters were all he was able to muster from the vaunted 15,000 at his command, I’m guessing a lot more aren’t OK with Peters continuing to publicly deceive them.
So who turns out looking worse in this situation? The reporter who was taken for a ride, or the people who lied to the whole world in order to do it? Yes, Alec Peters, you fooled me. “Big win for Axanar.” But all you proved is you’re willing to lie to score points in some imagined game, placing a higher priority on making a fool of a reporter instead of producing the film you promised your supporters years ago, just as you placed a higher priority on the tremendously expensive studio you just lost than on producing Axanar.
Which is why I’ll continue to cover this story until the day you stop trying to fool people for your own gratification. I’ll certainly be more careful about my sourcing in the future, now that I know the lengths to which you’ll go to hide the truth.
I apologize to my readers for letting them down, for getting caught up in yet another Axanar scheme. What I won’t apologize for is my intent to continue to cover this story. Axanar’s behavior trying to fool a reporter for some cheap laughs and finger-pointing just proves why it’s necessary to continue to shine a light on what they do.
But...it's still not in Atlanta, where he told his sycophants it was going to be, which means all they did was ding you in the process of proving one lie by making you report another. Well color me impressed!
Carlosp, I refuse to accept any apology from you because as far as I'm concerned you have nothing to apologize for. It's just an indicator of Axanar doing business as usual by demonstrating (1) That Alec Peters is a dick, and (2) trying to embarrass legitimate critics has always been on the checklist. The active disinformation campaign is a new wrinkle, but the goal is as old as this whole situation.
Take his ass DOWN. Semper Fi and carry on.
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Carlos once again shows who is the real class act. Able to admit when he's got it wrong. Except, as you say Carlos, you didn't really get it wrong, you just got caught up in some petty point scoring by Alec. As I said in a previous post, Alec's own actions tend to be more damning than anything you could ever publish.
And talking of which, reading the latest round of Carlos-bashing by Alec earlier was really quite disconcerting. He was sounding pretty paranoid, and we've now obviously got this pointless "sting" to factor in as well. The general nastiness in that thread was really worrisome as well, beyond what I recall reading previously (although admittedly at this point I've long since given up keeping a close eye on the Axanar fan groups). Alec's inability to tell the truth in favour of some imagined point scoring as well was firmly on show, taking potshots at Carlos' inability to finish his movie (I'd assume its the one you've shared trailers etc for Carlos, which looked pretty finished to me).
Again. Alec's own words. No need for unredacted court documents to realise all is not right.
And talking of which, reading the latest round of Carlos-bashing by Alec earlier was really quite disconcerting. He was sounding pretty paranoid, and we've now obviously got this pointless "sting" to factor in as well. The general nastiness in that thread was really worrisome as well, beyond what I recall reading previously (although admittedly at this point I've long since given up keeping a close eye on the Axanar fan groups). Alec's inability to tell the truth in favour of some imagined point scoring as well was firmly on show, taking potshots at Carlos' inability to finish his movie (I'd assume its the one you've shared trailers etc for Carlos, which looked pretty finished to me).
Again. Alec's own words. No need for unredacted court documents to realise all is not right.
The funny thing is that if Alec expects this to discredit Carlos, he's going to be sorely disappointed. The fact that Alec has been caught in the lie has proven that it will do nothing more than embed the "haters" in the "hater" camp and the "faithful" in the "faithful" camp. In fact, if the "faithful" see that Alec lied, it's more likely to backfire on him.
But who cares? Carlos got "pwned!"
But who cares? Carlos got "pwned!"
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@carlosp, Take solace in the one fact that always proves true. AP is a dick, and apparently he revels in it.
It's hard to sore like an eagle when you're reporting on turkeys.
This.
Carlos, lock it down. Get all the facts together about the steps Axanar took to propagate a lie. If your sources are not confidential, perhaps quotes from them about what they were told and what they think about being explicitly lied to. Who exactly it was that gave them such explicit information as pictures of the inside of a facility (that's pretty damning). How did they get those pictures (demonstrates elaborteness of effort). A timeline, so if FFF tries in parallel to use this as a lead to discredit other things, it is evident that it is coordinated.
Campe98 has it right. The story here, if it happened, is that Axanar is capable of, and did in fact orchestrate the dissemination of false information and subsequent criticism of the reporter of the planted information when it is published.
Delivered deadpan enough, it just shows how much they *want* your record of information to somehow be shaded. "Why Does Axanar Deliberately Conspire to Discredit Axamonitor Content?". Not something they will benefit from having permanently documented. Shades them a whole lot, rather than your work.
And whoptee-doo, its 30 miles out of town instead of 60. Its still where Axanar Productions will burn out. Who cares if its 'pretty far' from Atlanta, or 'really far'.
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Honorable
Honorable. Journalistic integrity holding itself to the higher standard.
Honorable.
Journalistic integrity holding itself to the higher standard.
Honorable. Right thing to do. I appreciate that.
Exactly. I concur.
This is journalism. The journalist works to find the facts. Barriers can be placed to prevent hidden facts from being uncovered. Journalists sometimes get it wrong all by themselves. Journalists are sometimes specifically fed misinformation. Some journalists will lead facts to support a desired conclusion. Some journalists will editorialize without expressly making it clear to their Readership.
It is not uncommon for some journalists to bury retractions and corrections in ways or in places where it's not easily noticed.
When honorable journalists discover they made the mistake, they highlight the mistake and make public the correction. When honorable journalists discover they made public incorrect information from sources they considered reliable, they highlight the misinformation and make public the correction.
'This' is the example of journalism making public the misinformation. Publicly expressing apology. With public reassertion of commitment to maintaining the Readership trust.
The wrong building, huh? Pah-lease do an in-depth story on those sources who fed you that misinformation.
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