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The Classic/Retro Pop Culture Thread

While it beat TOS to the punch, this is hardly the ultimate computer episode.

Well, of course not. If it had been the ultimate one, then there would never have been another one after it. ;)

(The writer in me was constantly annoyed by the names of Digimon's monster-evolution levels -- "Ultimate" was the second-highest level, followed by "Mega." So Ultimate was penultimate and Mega was ultimate. Arrrrgghhh!)
 
Look, TOS says that "The Ultimate Computer" was a significant event in the life of our Captain. The Penultimate Computer was not.

Even if they had a conjurer and a mariachi band.
 
This Week's 50th Anniversary Viewings
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The Saint
"The Gadget Lovers"
Originally aired April 21, 1967 (UK)
Xfinity said:
Simon impersonates the chief of the Moscow secret police to investigate the gadget-related murders of 13 intelligence operatives.


Of course, they overdo the female Russian colonel eschewing bourgeois, capitalist ways. Reminds me of an episode of Car 54 that I saw, but that was during the Kennedy era when the Cold War was at its peak. I was under the impression that things had thawed by this point.

At least Mission: Impossible hardened me to the few scenes in which Roger Moore sports a bad Russian accent. There's also a bit in which Templar correctly speculates that the Chinese are behind the plot, and he briefly uses his hands to slant his eyes...I'm surprised they still show that in this day and age.

It's pretty silly that the head of a major superpower's intelligence agency needs so much help from Simon to do some basic investigating and show some common sense. At one point, when she notices that a letter she's holding is smoldering and likely to explode, she just yells out for Simon while standing there holding it, because only Our Hero can daringly grab the letter from her and throw it out the window!

When the bad guys showed Simon the refrigerator in which they stored their stockpile of highly volatile micro-explosive in the last 10 minutes of the episode, I saw the destruction of their base coming right up...though I didn't actually see it when it happened, because TV budget.

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Get Smart
"A Man Called Smart: Part 3"
Originally Aired April 22, 1967
Xfinity said:
KAOS starts drying up the United States with a secret formula.


OK, this one had some moments that evoked genuine laughs:
  • 99 said:
    That's the first time you've ever called me Ernestine....I wish it were my name.
    Now that's MAD-style humor!
  • Max orders the Chief's chauffeur to "follow that car"...and the chauffeur runs down the street after it! Now that's an absurd sight gag!
  • A contact that Max and 99 meet at a laundromat hides in a washing machine, which starts when they close the door while KAOS types are walking by.
If the Admiral is supposed to be a spoof on Waverly as I previously speculated, and not just a random "old man" gag, then that's pretty funny.

"This is a Code P alert...that's P as in Peter." Seems like UNCLE isn't the only agency in need of some phonetic alphabet education.

The plot takes Max and 99 to Los Angeles...the most shooting-friendly place that characters in shows that take place in other cities can travel to. In a sequence that takes place at a movie studio, there's a pretty colorful running fight scene that has Max and his opponent going through various types of sets...that's something Batman should have done.

In their intros to the episodes that I recorded, Decades mentions how they'd use various tricks so that Barbara Feldon looked shorter when standing next to Don Adams. In this one (which is the first in this three-parter to prominently feature her), I noticed height inconsistencies between close-ups...most of the time she looks a little bit taller than him, in one scene she looked a little shorter.

Too soon for me to make any general observations about the show upon the closing of this season. Let's hope for more episodes like this one and less like the last one!

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The Avengers
"Something Nasty in the Nursery"
Originally aired April 22, 1967 (UK)
Wiki said:
Government ministers revert suddenly to childhood, when exposed to a new type of nerve gas.
Steed Acquires a Nanny
Emma Shops for Toys!

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On the subject of the "we're needed" scenes and codas not being entirely in-continuity with the rest of the episode...Steed sees that carousel in a toy store during his investigation...making it pretty unlikely that he'd just happen to use it when calling on Emma, before he even knew that the investigation was going to lead him in that direction.

What's more, the coda scene downright breaks the fourth wall:

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While not a particularly strong episode, this one is certainly more on the show's game than the previous installment, with the nursery hallucinations and choreographed nanny training filling the surreal quota nicely.

As soon as we got a good look at "her" in a veil, I knew that (one of the) Nanny Roberts was A MAN, BABY!!!

A Luger-in-the-Box--Now that's a spy-fi gimmick!

Bond film guest: Paul Hardwick (Soviet Chariman, Octopussy)

Yootha Joyce also looks familiar--I must be recognizing her from the Saint episode that she did. It's from early in the current season, before I started doing the reviews, so I would have seen it within the last five months, though I don't distinctly remember it.

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Kan doesn't call Caine "Grasshopper," does he? :p
Literary license. Or humorary license. :D

That wasn't in this episode. This bounty hunter used a rifle...tripped himself off a cliff going for it after Caine had kicked it away.
Just in general. That may have been his most "superhuman" Shaolin move-- or at least the most visually impressive.

While it beat TOS to the punch, this is hardly the ultimate computer episode.
Interesting. I also noticed that a Man From UNCLE episode in this weekend's binge is called "The Ultimate Computer Affair." There can be only one!

Max orders the Chief's chauffeur to "follow that car"...and the chauffeur runs down the street after it! Now that's an absurd sight gag!
Yeah, that's very Mel Brooks. :rommie:

A contact that Max and 99 meet at a laundromat hides in a washing machine, which starts when they close the door while KAOS types are walking by.
That must be the long-suffering Agent 13. :rommie:

In their intros to the episodes that I recorded, Decades mentions how they'd use various tricks so that Barbara Feldon looked shorter when standing next to Don Adams. In this one (which is the first in this three-parter to prominently feature her), I noticed height inconsistencies between close-ups...most of the time she looks a little bit taller than him, in one scene she looked a little shorter.
Interesting. I don't think I ever knew that. I did know that they did it with Claude Rains back in the day, because he was kind of short. Thank goodness the days of Height Privilege are over.

The Avengers
"Something Nasty in the Nursery"
Originally aired April 22, 1967 (UK)
I saw this one a few weeks ago. I got a kick out of Steed being left to attend all the babies in the Nanny Academy. :rommie:
 
Alright, I'm going to try bringing this bit of business over from the TOS review thread, as this has become my 50th anniversary review HQ...but on a biweekly basis for the summer hiatus, as 50th anniversary review business is slowing down....

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50 years ago this week and the following:
April 23 – A group of young radicals are expelled from the Nicaraguan Socialist Party (PSN). This group goes on to found the Socialist Workers Party (POS).
April 24
  • Soyuz 1: Vladimir Komarov becomes the first Soviet cosmonaut to die, when the parachute of his space capsule fails during re-entry.
  • In the NBA, the Philadelphia 76ers defeat the San Francisco Warriors 125-122 in game six to win the title. Some say this team is arguably the greatest of all time.
April 27 – Montreal, Quebec, Expo 67, a World's Fair to coincide with the Canadian Confederation centennial, officially opens with Prime Minister Lester B. Pearson igniting the Expo Flame in the Place des Nations.
April 28
  • In Houston, Texas, boxer Muhammad Ali refuses military service. He is stripped of his boxing title and not allowed to fight for three years.
  • Expo 67 opens to the public, with over 310,000 people attending. Al Carter from Chicago is the first visitor as noted by Expo officials.
  • The U.S. aerospace manufacturer McDonnell Douglas is formed through a merger of McDonnell Aircraft and Douglas Aircraft (it becomes part of The Boeing Company three decades later).
April 29 – Fidel Castro announces that all intellectual property belongs to the people and that Cuba intends to translate and publish technical literature without compensation.
April 30 – Moscow's 537m-tall TV tower is finished.
May 1
  • Elvis Presley and Priscilla Beaulieu are married in Las Vegas.
  • GO Transit, Canada's first interregional public transit system, is established.


Bonus Royal Wedding Link

May 2
  • The Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup. It is their last Stanley Cup and last finals appearance to date. It will turn out to be the last game in the Original Six era. Six more teams will be added in the fall.
  • Harold Wilson announces that the United Kingdom has decided to apply for EEC membership.
May 4 – Lunar Orbiter 4 is launched by the United States.
May 6
  • Dr. Zakir Hussain is the first Muslim to become president of India.
  • Four hundred students seize the administration building at Cheyney State College, now Cheyney University of Pennsylvania, the oldest institute for higher education for African Americans.
  • Hong Kong 1967 riots: Clashes between striking workers and police kill 51 and injure 800.



New on the charts in those weeks:

"Mirage," Tommy James & The Shondells
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(#10 US)

"All I Need," The Temptations
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(#8 US; #2 R&B; #60 UK)

"Him or Me, What's It Gonna Be?," Paul Revere & The Raiders
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(#5 US; On the subject of where they were at in their careers compared to fellow Batman guests Chad & Jeremy and Lesley Gore, this was their third biggest single from the hitmaking streak they'd been enjoying since late '65...though their last Top 10 until 1971's "Indian Reservation," which was their only #1)

"Creeque Alley," The Mamas & The Papas
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(#5 US; #9 UK)

"Respect," Aretha Franklin
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(#1 US the weeks of June 3 and 10; #1 R&B; #10 UK; #5 on Rolling Stone's 500 Greatest Songs of All Time)

And already touched upon upthread, complete with video link...

"Come on Down to My Boat," Every Mother's Son
(#6 US)


Coming up the week ending April 29:
  • The Avengers, "The Joker"

And the week ending May 6:
  • The Saint, "A Double in Diamonds"
  • The Avengers, "Who's Who?" (UK mid-season finale)
 
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The only game show I used to watch when I was a kid was Beat The Clock. I wouldn't mind seeing a couple of those episodes again.
Some of those were absolutely wild! The family I was living with in the mid-'70s had the Beat the Clock game, and we tried out some of the stunts. Note: If you want to try this, it works best in a bigger living room than we had.

Remember how excited the contestants would get if they picked the letter with the $200 underneath it? Mere pocket change these days, when it comes to game shows. :lol:

The are a lot of 80s sci-fi tv shows.
Here a partial list:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000097680/
The problem is that the majority of them (with the obvious exception of TNG) are simply not very good. You have:
  1. Kid stuffs
  2. Crime procedural with a little sci-fi twist
  3. Good concept, horrible execution
  4. Tacky. Incredible tacky.
  5. Simply bad.
In good conscience, the only good things that I can recommend are some episodes of the 80s version of The Twilight Zone. And perhaps Max Headroom.

ETA: It's fun how people, in hindsight, say how bad was the first season of TNG. You don't know how incredibly bad was almost everything before that.

ETA 2: Reading that list, there are series that I never heard in my life. Probe? Something Is Out There?
You are denigrating some of my favorite SF shows.

The V miniseries was incredible at the time, and one of the themes of "if we don't help (the scientists), we won't have learned a thing" (spoken by one of the Holocaust survivors) is very apt today. Substitute any marginalized group for the scientist characters, and it works. I'm glad my college anthropology instructor recommended the series to me. He loved it, and not just because there was an anthropologist as one of the main characters.

Galactica 1980 was really juvenile most of the time, but I did like the first couple of episodes and the one about Starbuck. And since I liked Kent McCord and Lorne Greene, the show was enjoyable anyway. BTW, the novelization of the time travel story is much better than the episode itself.

The Phoenix came along when I still hadn't shaken off all the ancient alien/Chariots of the Gods nonsense I'd been into in high school before a good dose of anthropology courses and Carl Sagan cured me of it. But I'd still watch it now because Judson Scott was really not bad to look at for an hour minus commercials. Some of the Phoenix fanfic I've read isn't bad.

The Powers of Matthew Star was a favorite. Peter Barton was cute, and I've always enjoyed watching Lou Gossett Jr.

Voyagers! was a favorite because I love time travel stories - even improbable ones that have a dog eating the instruction manual and a kid who happens to know more about history than the professional time traveler.

The Tripods was based on a trilogy of novels, and to the best of my knowledge the series was never finished (as in canceled before they reached the end of the third book). They wasted so much time mucking around with stuff that wasn't in the novels... :(

Otherworld: I vaguely remember watching this one - wouldn't really call it a favorite as it didn't last long enough to make much of an impression. The whole "trying to find their way home" reminded me too much of The Fantastic Journey, which I loved.

Twilight Zone: Whether the original series or the '80s version, this was a terrific show.

Starman was definitely a favorite. Sure, it was one of the heroes-search-for-a-loved-one (Jenny) while being hunted themselves... but at least there was some partial closure for the characters.

Hard Time on Planet Earth was one show I made sure to tape every week (back in the stone age when we used VCRs). There was a lot of humor involved in fish-out-of-water scenes.

And finally, how can it be said that Quantum Leap was worse than TNG?

I remember both of those. Probe wasn't bad, an attempt at a smart, science-based show. In retrospect, it was a bit reminiscent of season-1 Elementary, with a supersmart, antisocial lead character (Parker Stevenson) with a female partner (Ashley Crow) who drew him out of his shell and helped him engage with the world. It actually has a TNG connection -- not long after Probe was cancelled, its co-creator Michael Wagner briefly took over as TNG's showrunner at the start of season 3 before handing the job off to Michael Piller, who had worked with him on Probe.
I decided to watch Probe because of Parker Stevenson (I'm a Hardy Boys fan), but found it godawful boring.

You know, a couple of episodes of the second season of Buck Rogers in the 25th Century weren't totally unwatchable...
One of the episodes was on the same day we did one of the tech rehearsals for Jesus Christ Superstar when I was working in the theatre. Since tech rehearsals go on for hours and hours and there's a lot of downtime between people being needed to set up lighting and other cues and the only reason I was needed was if they wanted to rehearse a scene with a prop, a bunch of us gathered around a portable TV in the dressing room to watch Buck Rogers. One of the guys playing an apostle wanted to see it, but as bad luck would have it, no sooner would he get done on stage and run back to the dressing room, when the commercials would start. I don't think he got to see more than about 15 minutes of that episode - too bad, since Mark Lenard was in it.
 
You are denigrating some of my favorite SF shows.
I don't believe that I explicitly named any shows.
My point is that, if you take away the nostalgia factor, really few series of the 80s can be watched with the eyes of a modern viewer :)
The V miniseries was incredible at the time, and one of the themes of "if we don't help (the scientists), we won't have learned a thing" (spoken by one of the Holocaust survivors) is very apt today.
The original V miniseries was incredible good for the time. I didn't recommend this series because I think it's more a moral story with a sci-fi icing. Remember, @Korusan asked something with "80s sci fi aesthetic.".

Galactica 1980 was really juvenile most of the time, but I did like the first couple of episodes and the one about Starbuck.
Time is a precious thing. I don't thing the @Korusan can waste any of it for Galactica 1980 when there is a lot more better things out there. Even from the 80s... ;)

The Phoenix came along when I still hadn't shaken off all the ancient alien/Chariots of the Gods nonsense I'd been into in high school before a good dose of anthropology courses and Carl Sagan cured me of it.
I found it incredible boring. And I was quite tired of the Fugitive format. There is any show that follow that format with a satisfying conclusion? (except, of course, the original Fugitive).

The Powers of Matthew Star was a favorite. Peter Barton was cute, and I've always enjoyed watching Lou Gossett Jr.
I just quote myself here:
I find the premise of the show pretty ridiculous. You have the representatives of an alien race, the living proof of the existence of other life forms. And the
concrete danger of invasion by another alien race. And what is your best idea? "There's this Vegas' crime boss. Can you take care of it?"

Voyagers! was a favorite because I love time travel stories - even improbable ones that have a dog eating the instruction manual and a kid who happens to know more about history than the professional time traveler.
Watched just an episode or two. Always hated Sci-Fi shows with smartass kids ;)

The Tripods was based on a trilogy of novels, and to the best of my knowledge the series was never finished (as in canceled before they reached the end of the third book). They wasted so much time mucking around with stuff that wasn't in the novels... :(
Sorry, never watched.

Otherworld: I vaguely remember watching this one - wouldn't really call it a favorite as it didn't last long enough to make much of an impression. The whole "trying to find their way home" reminded me too much of The Fantastic Journey, which I loved.
A guilty pleasure of mine. But it was mediocre at best.

Twilight Zone: Whether the original series or the '80s version, this was a terrific show.
Yep! Absolutely!

Starman was definitely a favorite. Sure, it was one of the heroes-search-for-a-loved-one (Jenny) while being hunted themselves... but at least there was some partial closure for the characters.
I don't remember it well enough, so I take your word...

Hard Time on Planet Earth was one show I made sure to tape every week (back in the stone age when we used VCRs). There was a lot of humor involved in fish-out-of-water scenes.
After 4-5 episodes the fish-out-of-water-humor starts to become stale

And finally, how can it be said that Quantum Leap was worse than TNG?
I'm sorry who said this?!?
 
I don't believe that I explicitly named any shows.
My point is that, if you take away the nostalgia factor, really few series of the 80s can be watched with the eyes of a modern viewer :)

The original V miniseries was incredible good for the time. I didn't recommend this series because I think it's more a moral story with a sci-fi icing. Remember, @Korusan asked something with "80s sci fi aesthetic.".


Time is a precious thing. I don't thing the @Korusan can waste any of it for Galactica 1980 when there is a lot more better things out there. Even from the 80s... ;)


I found it incredible boring. And I was quite tired of the Fugitive format. There is any show that follow that format with a satisfying conclusion? (except, of course, the original Fugitive).


I just quote myself here:


Watched just an episode or two. Always hated Sci-Fi shows with smartass kids ;)


Sorry, never watched.


A guilty pleasure of mine. But it was mediocre at best.


Yep! Absolutely!


I don't remember it well enough, so I take your word...


After 4-5 episodes the fish-out-of-water-humor starts to become stale


I'm sorry who said this?!?
I'm going to quote your previous post again:

Skipper said:
The are a lot of 80s sci-fi tv shows.
Here a partial list:
http://www.imdb.com/list/ls000097680/
The problem is that the majority of them (with the obvious exception of TNG) are simply not very good. You have:
  1. Kid stuffs
  2. Crime procedural with a little sci-fi twist
  3. Good concept, horrible execution
  4. Tacky. Incredible tacky.
  5. Simply bad.
In good conscience, the only good things that I can recommend are some episodes of the 80s version of The Twilight Zone. And perhaps Max Headroom.

ETA: It's fun how people, in hindsight, say how bad was the first season of TNG. You don't know how incredibly bad was almost everything before that.
So yeah, while we agree on The Twilight Zone, by posting the list of shows you did, that was indirectly denigrating the whole lot of them (other than the ones you said you liked - Twilight Zone and Max Headroom (I couldn't stand that one, myself).

Therefore, I opted to mention the shows I liked on that list.

I have to ask - did you watch these at the time they were first broadcast, or years later? That makes a difference. I'm not sure I'd have liked some of the ancient alien/Atlantis-themed shows I did when I was a teenager, simply because I don't believe in that stuff anymore and get annoyed with people who insist it's really true but have no evidence.

Or maybe I still might like The Phoenix, if only because at that age, Judson Scott was pretty nice to look at (in my opinion).
 
Hard Time on Planet Earth was kind of a guilty pleasure for me. I knew it wasn't great, but I found it entertaining. I kinda liked the CG-animated AI drone, Control, that was the main character's warden and helper. For a while I was even quoting Control's catchphrase, "Negative outcome -- not good."

My main problem with the show was that it lacked a "native guide" character, a human regular to offer the alien lead character guidance on Earth society and culture. That's something most other "stranger in a strange land" shows have -- Scott in Starman (and Jenny in the movie), Jamie in Galactica 1980, the cop in Something is Out There, etc. But here, the alien lead's only guide was an alien AI that was just as clueless about Earth as he was.
 
Columbo: "A Bird in the Hand..." is the final TV script written by Jackson Gillis, who wrote a number of episodes of Columbo as well as doing a ton of Perry Mason, Adventures of Superman, and plenty of others. (His only subsequent credit is for the Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman episode "All Shook Up" two years later, but that's because it's an adaptation of his classic "Panic in the Sky" episode from Adventures of Superman.) It's back to the usual format, but is also a twist on that format, in a manner reminiscent of the original series episode "Last Salute to the Commodore," also by Gillis. We see the main guest star (Greg Evigan) plan his murder as usual, via car bomb... but then the victim is killed by an apparent hit-and-run instead, and the bad guy lets the car bomb kill an innocent bystander rather than expose his own crime. Then it turns out that his mistress, the victim's wife (Tyne Daly), actually drove the hit-and-run car, and when Evigan finds out, Daly kills him! So Columbo spends the first half of his time in the movie chasing one killer, and then he spends the rest chasing the killer of the first killer. (I think I previously counted this one among the revival-series episodes in which the killer had an accomplice, but I was wrong; the two killers were working independently, first against the same target and then against each other.)

It's a clever idea, and the story works pretty well, with some effective clues and detective work. However, I don't find either of the killers all that interesting to watch. I think that's largely due to Evigan and Daly not being very engaging, but it's partly the way their characters are written; Evigan's Harold is a one-note hustler whose main reaction to Columbo throughout is angry impatience, and Daly's Dolores is mostly playing a flighty drunk, with her real shrewdness only occasionally emerging. Neither of them really comes off as a strong adversary for Columbo, perhaps because each one had to be caught in about half the usual time. But I do think better casting would've helped both roles. There's also a rather annoying second police lieutenant played by Frank McRae, who delivers every line as if he's trying to be heard in the next room.

The meaning of the title doesn't become clear until the final scene, interestingly. Maybe that's why the title is shown again over the closing freeze frame, as if to remind us.

Next week... Shatner!
 
"Mirage," Tommy James & The Shondells
"All I Need," The Temptations
"Him or Me, What's It Gonna Be?," Paul Revere & The Raiders
Wow, three singles from bands I like that I'm not familiar with.

"Creeque Alley," The Mamas & The Papas
A classic, of course.

"Respect," Aretha Franklin
And one of the all-time classics.

"Come on Down to My Boat," Every Mother's Son
Yep, a very fun, very 60s song.

Some of those were absolutely wild! The family I was living with in the mid-'70s had the Beat the Clock game, and we tried out some of the stunts. Note: If you want to try this, it works best in a bigger living room than we had.
Oh, yeah, we had the home game, too. I recall it getting messy at times.

The V miniseries was incredible at the time, and one of the themes of "if we don't help (the scientists), we won't have learned a thing" (spoken by one of the Holocaust survivors) is very apt today. Substitute any marginalized group for the scientist characters, and it works. I'm glad my college anthropology instructor recommended the series to me. He loved it, and not just because there was an anthropologist as one of the main characters.
The original miniseries was fantastic. It's a shame what the series turned into.

The Phoenix came along when I still hadn't shaken off all the ancient alien/Chariots of the Gods nonsense I'd been into in high school before a good dose of anthropology courses and Carl Sagan cured me of it.
I loved all that Ancient Astronauts stuff, even if I didn't believe it (still do), but I never watched The Phoenix.

The Tripods was based on a trilogy of novels, and to the best of my knowledge the series was never finished (as in canceled before they reached the end of the third book). They wasted so much time mucking around with stuff that wasn't in the novels... :(
I remember hearing about this, but never getting a chance to see it. It was on PBS, right? I don't think it was ever shown in my area.

Otherworld: I vaguely remember watching this one - wouldn't really call it a favorite as it didn't last long enough to make much of an impression. The whole "trying to find their way home" reminded me too much of The Fantastic Journey, which I loved.
I remember watching Otherworld and finding that the concept was inconsistent and not well thought out. I watched Fantastic Journey, too, but don't remember much-- except Roddy McDowall was in it, which is always a good thing.

Twilight Zone: Whether the original series or the '80s version, this was a terrific show.
While the 80s version may lack the classic veneer of the original, it was a great show.

And finally, how can it be said that Quantum Leap was worse than TNG?
Quantum Leap is definitely a classic, though mostly mainstream up until the last season. It's a shame not much is seen of it these days. And it's a show that definitely deserves a sequel series (not a reboot).
 
The original miniseries was fantastic. It's a shame what the series turned into.
The series was pretty inconsistent. I'm glad they got rid of Robin Maxwell - whiny brat. Her kid was more grown-up than she was. I liked Kyle Bates, though, and I'll watch anything Duncan Regehr is in.

I loved all that Ancient Astronauts stuff, even if I didn't believe it (still do), but I never watched The Phoenix.
There were only 4 episodes, so it was a "blink and you'll miss it" kind of thing. I've seen some decent fanfic stories, though - I have a fanzine that's all Phoenix stories.

There was a Doctor Who/Phoenix crossover story I liked (Fourth Doctor).

I remember hearing about this, but never getting a chance to see it. It was on PBS, right? I don't think it was ever shown in my area.
I don't know if it was on PBS. I saw it on YTV, a Canadian channel that showed mostly youth-oriented shows and music videos. I'd already read the novels it was based on, and I liked the actors they chose to play the main characters. But the plot of the TV series veered off into territory that was never in the novels, so as I said, the story was left unfinished.

I remember watching Otherworld and finding that the concept was inconsistent and not well thought out. I watched Fantastic Journey, too, but don't remember much-- except Roddy McDowall was in it, which is always a good thing.
Yep. Roddy McDowall was a huge reason why I liked that show. And I'll admit that I found Ike Eisenmann kinda cute at that age. I found the episodes online last year and rewatched them... cringe. Most of them were absolutely awful, plot-wise and a lot of the acting was really sub-par. But it was still nice to revisit an old favorite program. I liked the main cast then and the only one I didn't care for on rewatching it was Katie Saylor (the Atlantean woman).
 
So yeah, while we agree on The Twilight Zone, by posting the list of shows you did, that was indirectly denigrating the whole lot of them (other than the ones you said you liked - Twilight Zone and Max Headroom (I couldn't stand that one, myself).

I have to ask - did you watch these at the time they were first broadcast, or years later?
With the exception of the shows that at the time were not imported into Italy, I watched at least one episode of each series in the list.
I was craving for something that was remotely sci-fi, but even at the time I had admit that the overall quality leaved much to be desired. What are the 80s sci-fi equivalents of critically acclaimed shows like Hill Street Blues, Magnum, P.I., Miami Vice or Cheers? The only ones that I can in good conscience recommend are TNG, some episodes of Twilight Zone and perhaps Max Headroom. I didn't recommend a great show like Quantum Leap simply because:

1) @Korusan explicitly asked something with a "80s sci fi aesthetic". The show was set especially in the past, and when we finally saw the "present", well, there were the 90s...
2) The show is borderline 80s (the first episode was broadcast in the 1989)
 
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I don't care about "critically acclaimed" shows. All I require of a TV show is that it entertains me and gives me something to react to - whether it's funny, sad, makes me think "what if", prompts me to do research on some interesting point brought up in the show, if it sparks any fannish ideas like fanfic, filksongs, poetry, etc.

I watched Magnum, P.I. occasionally, but I doubt I've seen even a dozen episodes of it. Miami Vice was of no interest; ditto, Cheers.

In the '70s and '80s, once I got into Star Trek, I watched nearly everything that was even vaguely related to science fiction. Fantasy took longer, as I wasn't into that until the mid-'80s.

Most of what I watched in the '80s besides the shows discussed above were Doctor Who and whatever Britcoms were being shown on PBS. I've had this crazy idea running around my brain for years, trying to figure out how to do a fanfic crossover between Keeping Up Appearances and Babylon 5. The connection is that Hyacinth's son's name is Sheridan... and we never see Sheridan on-camera. I need a way to get her out of the 20th century and onto that space station, so she can drive everyone nuts.
 
. What are the 80s sci-fi equivalents of critically acclaimed shows like Hill Street Blues, Magnum, P.I., Miami Vice or Cheers? The only ones that I can in good conscience recommend are TNG, some episodes of Twilight Zone and perhaps Max Headroom. I didn't recommend a great show like Quantum Leap simply because:
Were Magnum and Miami Vice critically acclaimed? I have to say I never watched either one, aside from an episode or two, but my impression was they were pretty average. I did watch Hill Street Blues and Cheers. Top notch in their respective genres.

My recollection is SF/F on TV was pretty dire in the 80s, at least in America. Looking at the list of shows from that decade the one that stand out are the aforementioned, Max Headroom and Amazing Stories
 
Were Magnum and Miami Vice critically acclaimed?
Yep. There were considered game changers.
Miami Vice had a Time's cover!
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I don't care about "critically acclaimed" shows. All I require of a TV show is that it entertains me and gives me something to react to - whether it's funny, sad, makes me think "what if", prompts me to do research on some interesting point brought up in the show, if it sparks any fannish ideas like fanfic, filksongs, poetry, etc.

I watched Magnum, P.I. occasionally, but I doubt I've seen even a dozen episodes of it. Miami Vice was of no interest; ditto, Cheers.

In the '70s and '80s, once I got into Star Trek, I watched nearly everything that was even vaguely related to science fiction. Fantasy took longer, as I wasn't into that until the mid-'80s.

Most of what I watched in the '80s besides the shows discussed above were Doctor Who and whatever Britcoms were being shown on PBS. I've had this crazy idea running around my brain for years, trying to figure out how to do a fanfic crossover between Keeping Up Appearances and Babylon 5. The connection is that Hyacinth's son's name is Sheridan... and we never see Sheridan on-camera. I need a way to get her out of the 20th century and onto that space station, so she can drive everyone nuts.
Ok, there must be some kind of misunderstanding here. No one is attacking your tastes or saying that you are wrong in liking what you like. @Korusan asked for some suggestion and I recommended some shows according to my personal criteria. You are absolutely free to do the same :)
 
I didn't take it as an attack (mind you, I have been attacked elsewhere on the forum for my opinions of nuTrek). I just have no patience with people who insist that a show "must" be good if the critics liked it or it scored some sort of high rating on a poll. I don't rely on other people to make up my mind for me as to whether or not a TV show, movie, or book is any good.

My view is that I like what I like, for reasons that make sense to me, and other people are free to do the same, for reasons that make sense to them. All I ask is to not be attacked, mocked, or trolled if I say (honestly) that I've never seen a full episode of Seinfeld or Big Bang Theory, or even sat through a single one of the Star Wars prequel movies.

I honestly don't remember what most of the popular shows were back in the '80s, unless I was actively watching them. I do recall when the M*A*S*H finale was on... I was working in the theatre then, and the director knew full well that nobody's mind would be on rehearsals that night - so she let us have the night off to stay home and watch M*A*S*H.
 
Yep. There were considered game changers.
Miami Vice had a Time's cover!

Noting that a thing is popular is not at all the same thing as critical acclaim. Critical acclaim means that critics are saying a show is good. That has always been a very, very different issue from whether a show is successful. I didn't follow either Magnum or Miami Vice, but I have the impression that they were both considered to be fairly conventional, lowbrow action-adventure shows, although the latter was more stylistically cutting-edge.
 
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