Getting Rid Of Kim?
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It was the clarinet. But, to be fair, he mentioned to the Kobali reincarnation of Lindsey Ballard that he'd learned to play the sax. It wouldn't be too hard; they both are single reed instruments and the fingerings are quite similar, if not identical.
Originally he played the clarinet. In season 7 he played the sax
I kind of would have liked to see a talent show. Some of the actors are great singers. It would be so beyond out of character, but Roxann Dawson is a great singer who got her start on Broadway
As long as the doctor isn't in it. I get the feeling that the doctor is doing a talent show in every episode focused on him in the later seasons.
Not that I'm complaining
Speaking of singing-seeing both Jeri and Nana Visitor do a Trek ladies nightclub song would be amazing.
I'm having a Vic Fontaine moment here..
Well, I am!
Don't get me wrong, Robert Picardo is an incredible actor and in Voyager, he was terrific but to overfill his plate - while recognizing himself that certain of his colleagues were forgotten but how could it be otherwise, when he is so present before & behind the cameras?!-, he managed to tire quite some fans (ok, I'm aware that we might be in the minority but, we're here).
I know that Picardo and his character of the Doctor became one of favourites of ST: Voyager but his play acting really ended to annoy me at the point where I tend to zap all episodes turning around the Doctor (in later seasons, there are many and followed one another!) during reruns.
One of the best actors of the show was Tim Russ. But his character was shoved aside together with the others when those in charge decided to focus almost all attention on Seven and her sidekicks Janeway and The Doctor.
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But they are skilled writers! They should find a way to come up with stories for a main character, no matter what.
Not to mention that the authors of the excellent Voyager books had no problems with coming up with good stories including ALL main characters.
Maybe a change of writers in season 3 would have been the best option.
I would have continued with was going on in season 3 with Kes as a more independent character.
With The Doctor's emitter and possibility to move around freely at the ship, Kes would have more time to do other duties tnan just in sickbay. Voyager needed a counselor, well Kes would have been perfect for that job! That could also have meant that she could have played a positive role in integrating Seven to her new life on board Voyager. Here I would have used Kes's skills to convince and persuade people by simply attacking the problems from a different angle if the first attempt fails. That would have been very useful in interacting with Seven.
I would also have spent a couple of episodes in which a way is found to prolong Kes's lifespan, either by Q, Suspiria or good, old Doctor Zimmerman.
To be fair, we could probably say that of about 70-80% of trek-related threads on this forum
I think Kes would be a poor counselor. She has no training and very little life experience. Being kind and compassionate is not enough
If she had stayed there could have been some interesting dramatic moments for her as she deals with her aging. From her point of view she would be aging and facing her own death while watching those around her age very little. Could be some great dramatic moments.
Her role in sickbay would probably increase as well. She would become a secondary doctor or at least a skilled nurse.
I still looked for Tuvok scenes but I agree Seven was featured too much. That is the problem when a character is brought on with baggage and agenda. Seven was brought on to represent something and it became defining.
I think she would have been an excellent counselor. She had empathy and an excellent understanding of other people and how they react. Than would more than enough compenaste a relative lack of experience.
Anyone who have the interest of tear-wrenching dramas about death and disease can watch "The Bold And The Beautiful" or some other melodramatic soap opera where the death struggle of one person can take a whole season.
Star Trek is an optimistic series about exploring, adventure and a better future. Death occurs but isn't dragged on in endless melodrama. Let's keep it that way.
To be honest, I watched one family member wither away in a hospital bed for more than a year before finally passing away. I didn't find that tear-wrenching drama entertaining at all and I don't find it entertaining on TV either.
Not to mention that most of those who want to keep the nine-year lifespan and have some melodramatic, tear-wrenching ending of Kes's life and also found pleasure in watching the insulting character destruction in season 6 are those who hate or strongly dislike the character. A coincident? I don't think so.
As for her role in sickbay, she would definitely continue to do a great job there as well. But there is so much more she could contribute to outside sickbay as well.
Chill
NOBODY has expressed a desire to see a long drawn out story about a person suffering. What myself and others have said is that exploring her entire 9 year lifespan could be interesting and could open the door for some dramatic scenes. But if you do the math she would be at the most 8 years old at the end of the show, so it wouldn't be the end of her life anyway. Despite your personal wish that it be some cheerful Kes show, Star Trek is a drama that has is a vehicle for commentary on social and political issues. That was the whole reason Gene Roddenberry created Star Trek in the first place.
In my opinion her 9 year lifespan is interesting and the one unique thing about her species. Pointy ears, mental powers, long life spans, that's all been done before.
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Seriously! This is the greatest forum I've ever seen, and the only one I've joined.
I don't think it's nearly as much as is often made out to be. She had four or five episodes(which is usually what the captain gets in a season) focused on her in season 4, but after that, things kind of go back to normal.
I think she was a Doctor in her alternate timeline. It might have been interesting to have two doctors, with sometimes differing recommendations, like Crusher in that one episode.
That totally reminds me of Ezri. She wants to leave DS9 because she thinks Worf hates her. She talks to Sisko about transferring, and he's like "Hmmm, with all this war stuff going on, we could really use a counselor" What's that Sisko? DS9 needs a counselor? You speak as if such a thing is pure novelty. What happened to O'Brien's counselor?
Ezri's like "I don't have the education or training for such a job."
And Sisko replies "I think 7 lifetimes is enough experience for such a simple job as a counselor. In fact, I remember many a times after a long night at the bar, Curzon gave me all kinda good advice! Here's an extra pip for your collar.... Lieutenant"
...IN YO FACE, TROY!
