Of course we do we're not just gratuitous and annoying about it.Are you serious? You think Trek fans don't obsess over the opposite sex?????
Trek's lowest moment
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Sure we are. The "Babe of Week" threads that this board used to feature is a prime example. And any thread that mentions Helen Noel.
Sure we are. The "Babe of Week" threads that this board used to feature is a prime example. And any thread that mentions Helen Noel.
LOL......... Funny I preferred Tonia Barrows
New Trek seems to be just a rehashing of everything and anything that has gone before (500 hours plus), perhaps with more "pew-pew" action, "teen-level" character interaction, and lens flares.
Trek's been rehashing Trek since TOS season two.
Very true. There do seem to be a limited number of core plots dressed up in various ways.
Star Trek plot generator
Lowest point, huh?
TATV and then when JJ made his movies.
TATV and then when JJ made his movies.
Since then, the few truly original stories really stand out.
TBOBW would probably be one.
Followed by Family, Kirk was pretty good about letting things roll off his back.
For me, this kind of means, "what was the worst decision Trek made creatively?"
In the movies, it's a no brainer. I think killing Kirk was the worst decision and there's nothing even close. I never really forgave Trek for that decision, and I think the denial of Shatner returning, which he clearly wanted, was just terrible given how important he was to the franchise.
On TV, the lowest point was Flashback on Voyager. That was written during the 30th anniversary and done around the same time as DS9's Trials and Tribbleations.
You could really tell the difference in writing in these episodes. In Trials, the writer was clearly happy to take on the assignment of writing a tribute to the original series. You saw great attention to detail and pretty much any fan with knowledge of the original series and that episode can see the effort and caring put into that episode. The result was an episode that is probably in that show's top 3 episodes, and for me, my favorite.
Then you have Flashback, where I felt the writer was forced into doing something he didn't want to do, honor a series that he clearly didn't care for, and the result was a sloppy, horribly written episode that wreaked havoc with continuity. It was like he watched one scene of Star Trek VI, and nothing else. The plot was terrible, the story was terrible, and it was an out and out disappointment on every front. It was almost as if not only he didn't want to write the episode, he was almost purposefully sabotaging any future Sulu series.
I loathe that episode.
In the movies, it's a no brainer. I think killing Kirk was the worst decision and there's nothing even close. I never really forgave Trek for that decision, and I think the denial of Shatner returning, which he clearly wanted, was just terrible given how important he was to the franchise.
On TV, the lowest point was Flashback on Voyager. That was written during the 30th anniversary and done around the same time as DS9's Trials and Tribbleations.
You could really tell the difference in writing in these episodes. In Trials, the writer was clearly happy to take on the assignment of writing a tribute to the original series. You saw great attention to detail and pretty much any fan with knowledge of the original series and that episode can see the effort and caring put into that episode. The result was an episode that is probably in that show's top 3 episodes, and for me, my favorite.
Then you have Flashback, where I felt the writer was forced into doing something he didn't want to do, honor a series that he clearly didn't care for, and the result was a sloppy, horribly written episode that wreaked havoc with continuity. It was like he watched one scene of Star Trek VI, and nothing else. The plot was terrible, the story was terrible, and it was an out and out disappointment on every front. It was almost as if not only he didn't want to write the episode, he was almost purposefully sabotaging any future Sulu series.
I loathe that episode.
I'd like to do a remake of the Columbo episode with William Shatner starring in it from the 70s'. With a take on how technology can manipulate people's memorys now. The one with the VHS Machine and the knockout drink and the ball game and the clock's hands being moved back. Whether William Shatner could play the same character again I don't know.
How did Naomi Wildman get pregnant? Tom was implied strongly to be promiscuous throughout until getting together with B'elanna , Seven formed relationships with Chakotay and Axum, additionally having numerous failed flirtations throughout the series and....who cares. Real people have sex. Often they have more than one partner. Trek has never promoted a puritanical attitude, far from it in fact, it has deliberately lambasted religious dogma in particular.
Whilst I'd hate to see the day trek was sold primarily on sex appeal (I do believe it has so much more to offer and have argued as much elsewhere at length) it is unrealistic to suggest it has ever shied away from showing characters having romantic entanglements or expressing sexuality. Nor should it.
Low moments:-
TOS female uniforms post Pike
Spock's brain
Turnabout Intruder
TATV (I spit on thee)
Kirk's rapid rise in Starfleet in ST09
TOS female uniforms post Pike
Spock's brain
Turnabout Intruder
TATV (I spit on thee)
Kirk's rapid rise in Starfleet in ST09
Naomi was conceived before Voyager was lost,your right about Tom, and who the heck is Axum?
Being conceived prior to the show is meaningless, sex rarely if ever actually happens onscreen in trek anyway - it's almost entirely implied, the fact remains the character was required to have sex in order for the pregnancy to occur.
Axum was a fellow drone with whom Seven had a relationship whilst in Unimatrix Zero. I'd clearly make the case that is distinct from a holodeck/whatever simulation because a genuine living sapient being was involved, abstracted I'll grant you but nonetheless he was as active a participant as people engaging in various iterations of e/cyber/text/whatever sex.
Axum was a fellow drone with whom Seven had a relationship whilst in Unimatrix Zero. I'd clearly make the case that is distinct from a holodeck/whatever simulation because a genuine living sapient being was involved, abstracted I'll grant you but nonetheless he was as active a participant as people engaging in various iterations of e/cyber/text/whatever sex.
Searched through the thread for the word "Remick" to see if anyone mentioned this scene already. I must agree.
Shades of Grey, A Night in Sickbay, Precious Cargo
I'm pretty sure theres a TOS post coital scene of someone sat on Kirk's bed and getting (re)dressed...
Apologies if it's been mentioned (46 pages is a lot to go through), but I'm gonna have to say Spock's "Khaaaaaaaaan" in Into Darkness.
I get similar plots, and references, and all that, I even understand Kirk having to sacrifice himself to save his crew (even I wasn't too pleased about Khan's cure all blood, either), but this moment took something that was meant to be emotional, and took used what has become a comical moment in Trek lore to take the film from homage to ridicule.
I get similar plots, and references, and all that, I even understand Kirk having to sacrifice himself to save his crew (even I wasn't too pleased about Khan's cure all blood, either), but this moment took something that was meant to be emotional, and took used what has become a comical moment in Trek lore to take the film from homage to ridicule.
Ah........ I remember reading about this. Was it a scene where a female had left boots near the bed to indicate something had gone on?
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